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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I will put on my flame suit and just say that Trojan seem to outlive the batteries listed below.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>With all things the same, I have on several occasions replaced 10-12 year old Trojan L-16’s with Deka’s and the Deka’s lasted 3 years in the same place with exactly the same customers, equipment and assumingly the same care. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Stick with Trojan’s you just do not have to carry them to the battery box so often…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No real experience with Surrettes but know other dealers who have, some are hard to get full charged. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I avoid the following in no real order,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Interstate<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Exide<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dynasty<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Deka (I do use their 2 volt cells to build big battery banks with good results)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sam’s club (from whoever the builder is this year).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bull Dog, industrial cells, long story. They failed in 6 months in a Zamboni.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Avoid any Chinese battery.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Add any others that come to mind, I just got done with a 2250 mile drive in 2 days and my mind is mush.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I can list more but the mind is just not up to it, between the miles and 106 degree temps I’m toast!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Later,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob Ellison<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jonathan Hill<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 29, 2012 9:41 PM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> RE-wrenches<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Experience<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Over 20 years experience with them says you can't go wring with Trojan!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Jonathan Hill, senior system engineer and founder</span></font></span><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sierra Solar Systems</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>563C Idaho Maryland Road<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Grass Valley, CA 95945<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Celebrating our 32nd year in solar!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>tech info and foreign orders: (530) 273-6754 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>order line: (888) ON-SOLAR (US only) FAX: (530) 273-1760<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>e-mail: <<a href="mailto:solarjon@sierrasolar.com">mailto:solarjon@sierrasolar.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>world wide web: <<a href="http://www.sierrasolar.com">http://www.sierrasolar.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY-0UuabPEk"><br>Check out our 2 minute video at: <br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY-0UuabPEk</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br><span class=apple-style-span><o:p></o:p></span></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Dave Palumbo wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We have had less than stellar performance out of the Crown L-16’s that we installed 4 to 5 years ago. Premature failure is my experience. About 60% of the cycle life compared to Trojan L-16’s and also Surrette/Rolls. I’ve been using those since 1985.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Back to using Trojan. Specifically RE-B’s either L-16, or T-105. And have used Trojan Industrial IND 13-6V on one system with good success with another set ordered.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dave</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><span class=apple-converted-space><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></font></span><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b>SunHarvest<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, June 29, 2012 11:56 AM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>RE-wrenches<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Experience</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Just got talked into buying Crown (<a href="mailto:395Ah@20Hr">395Ah@20Hr</a>) as my local rep, "the battery expert", was persuasive in his testimony to their reliability. Should've consulted wrenches first.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Should I be worried??</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Eric Stikes<br>SunHarvest Solar<br>+1 (530) 798 - 3738<br><a href="http://www.harvesthesun.com">www.harvesthesun.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:13.5pt'><font size=4 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Options & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div></div></body></html>