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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jonathan,<br>
      Those units lost their certification around 2000. Units in
      operation before then were grandfathered in, but after that date
      weren't allowed. Our utility always requires a current spec sheet
      showing the listing to UL1741 by an NRTL, which that unit can't
      produce. So we could never get it past the utilities. <br>
      <br>
      I would not encourage you to tell your customer to use it, unless
      you're absolutely certain that the utility would never find out -
      which, of course, you can't. It can't be legally intertied and is
      thus your tushy hangin' out in the breeze as the PV professional.
      Not worth the risk, IMHO.<br>
      Allan<br>
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        <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><b>Allan Sindelar</b></font><br>
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          <span style="font-size: 10pt;">NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic
            Installer<br>
            NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>
            New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>
            Founder and Chief Technology Officer<br>
            <b>Positive Energy, Inc.</b><br>
            3209 Richards Lane (note new address)<br>
            Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br>
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      On 6/30/2012 6:25 PM, Jonathan Hill wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:023D8237-F6BD-4C84-9252-5B6870F342C2@gmail.com"
      type="cite"><base href="x-msg://1351/">I used one made about that
      time in our home back in . It was the first grid-tie in the county
      and worked flawlessly for about ten years before we sold it. While
      it was approved at the time, I'm not sure if PG&E would
      approve it now, probably not. Might just do it!
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          <div>On Jun 30, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Bob Clark wrote:</div>
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                    font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Have
                    a potential customer who wants to connect to the
                    grid after many years of off-grid living.  He is
                    asking if his older Trace inverter (SW4024 inverter;
                    Date of manufacture:  3rd quarter of 1998; S/N:
                     W07878; 120 volts and 33.3 Amps) would still be OK
                    to use in a grid-tie system.<o:p></o:p></div>
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                    font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">What
                    say you?  Does it still comply with the latest
                    standards for grid-tie inverters?  Should he start
                    over with a new inverter?<o:p></o:p></div>
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                          108, 10); ">SolarWind Energy Systems, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div>
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