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<DIV><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What is “peak volts” and “peak amps”?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The only ratings that should apply here are Vmp and Imp. Plus, of course, deratings for temperature and correction for irradiance and angle of incidence.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>See ya!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Marv<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Director of Technology and Support, North America<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>SolarEdge Technologies, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tech Support North America: +877.360.5292<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mobile: +530.392.0356<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wallace Stahle<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Kyocera KC 120-1R = 102 Watt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bill,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>It is simpler than that.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I multiplied the labeled peak volts x the peak amps at STC. That is, using the stated data from label on back of module .<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In other words the R in model number might mean refurbished but actually results in reduced output. Though it is stated as +10/-0% in the install document included.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Wallace Stahle<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Future Electric Energy Co<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>P O Box 236<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Willits, CA 95490<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:future@pacific.net">future@pacific.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>CA Lic.# C10-762093<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>707-459-0474<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 28, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Bill Loesch wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Wallace,<br><br>Can you describe what your x v test is? Something more sophisticated than a DayStar meter?<br><br>Anyone have any info about KC70 modules not being up to strength?<br><br>TIA,<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>Bill Loesch<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><br>On 27-Jun-12 4:00 PM, Wallace Stahle wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 26, 2012, at 2:59 PM, SunHarvest wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The KC120's turned out to be faulty. Kyocera replaced all 12 of the bad KC120's with refurbished KC120's and requested an invoice for my labor to complete the exchange. I tested the new and old modules side by side and both registered the same voltage and amperage. It's only under load when the power failure is apparent. This is why I initially ruled out the modules as being the problem. Thanks for all your help wrenchers!</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Eric Stikes<br>Owner</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Eric, You might want to look at the module label and confirm output.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Just this Monday I opened an unused, 3 year old box of two of those replacement Kyocera 120-1Rs and while doing a x v discovered it was only 102 watts. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I arranged the replacement of 10 these 3 years ago and don't think I actually looked then, What more need ye know than KC120 right? But suspect I had the wool pulled over my eyes by Kyocera. A net loss of replacement watts.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Even though Kyocera will replace them with pleasure, it seems strange for them to allow a whole class of customers to absorb the cost of faulty modules with prematurely failed batteries and/or excess generator use, so that Kyocera can absorb the cost slowly over years while thousands of customers pay the consequence$ until the swap happens.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Why not a recall? $$$ of course.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Then the pleasantly supplied replacements come in 15% smaller. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ouch<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Anyone else out there with 120-1R Kyocera modules that label 6.08 I-pk and 16.8V-pk. Kyocera needs to "amp up" the replacements in my view.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Wallace Stahle<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Future Electric Energy Co<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>P O Box 236<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Willits, CA 95490<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:future@pacific.net">future@pacific.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>CA Lic.# C10-762093<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>707-459-0474<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Options & settings:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List rules & etiquette:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Check out participant bios:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com/">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2012.0.2179 / Virus Database: 2437/5096 - Release Date: 06/27/12<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Options & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></DIV>
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