<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Bill,</div>It is simpler than that.<div><br></div><div>I multiplied the labeled peak volts x the peak amps at STC. That is, using the stated data from label on back of module .</div><div><br></div><div>In other words the R in model number might mean refurbished but actually results in reduced output. Though it is stated as +10/-0% in the install document included.</div><div><br></div><div><div>Wallace Stahle</div><div>Future Electric Energy Co</div><div>P O Box 236</div><div>Willits, CA 95490</div><div><a href="mailto:future@pacific.net">future@pacific.net</a></div><div>CA Lic.# C10-762093</div><div>707-459-0474</div></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Jun 28, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Bill Loesch wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
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Wallace,<br>
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Can you describe what your x v test is? Something more sophisticated
than a DayStar meter?<br>
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Anyone have any info about KC70 modules not being up to strength?<br>
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TIA,<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Bill Loesch
Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar
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On 27-Jun-12 4:00 PM, Wallace Stahle wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The KC120's turned out
to be faulty. Kyocera replaced all 12 of the
bad KC120's with refurbished KC120's and requested
an invoice for my labor to complete the exchange. I
tested the new and old modules side by side and both
registered the same voltage and amperage. It's only
under load when the power failure is apparent. This
is why I initially ruled out the modules as being
the problem. Thanks for all your help wrenchers!</font></div>
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Owner<br>
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<div>Eric, You might want to look at the module label and
confirm output.</div>
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Just this Monday I opened an unused, 3 year old box of two
of those replacement Kyocera 120-1Rs and while doing a x v
discovered it was only 102 watts. </div>
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<div>I arranged the replacement of 10 these 3 years ago and
don't think I actually looked then, What more need ye know
than KC120 right? But suspect I had the wool pulled over my
eyes by Kyocera. A net loss of replacement watts.</div>
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<div>Even though Kyocera will replace them with pleasure, it
seems strange for them to allow a whole class of customers to
absorb the cost of faulty modules with prematurely failed
batteries and/or excess generator use, so that Kyocera can
absorb the cost slowly over years while thousands of customers
pay the consequence$ until the swap happens.<br>
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<div>Why not a recall? $$$ of course.</div>
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<div>Then the pleasantly supplied replacements come in 15%
smaller. </div>
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<div>Ouch</div>
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<div>Anyone else out there with 120-1R Kyocera modules that
label 6.08 I-pk and 16.8V-pk. Kyocera needs to "amp up" the
replacements in my view.</div>
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<div>Wallace Stahle</div>
<div>Future Electric Energy Co</div>
<div>P O Box 236</div>
<div>Willits, CA 95490</div>
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<div>CA Lic.# C10-762093</div>
<div>707-459-0474</div>
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