<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">OK, since WHEN is a cat killing a bird a "problem"? LMAO.<br><div>
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<div><strong><font face="Arial"><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff"><span class="203211415-22062012">Hi folks: I don't mean to be the devil's advocate
here, but my birder friend would like me to share the following info (from Chris
at Oasis Montana)</span></font></font></font></strong></div>
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<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span class="203211415-22062012"> </span><strong>Yes, Bob is correct in that
turbines are safer for birds now than they were 30 years ago, however, his
cavalier attitude toward his cats and windows killing them (when he could be
doing something about that -- just google preventing bird window strikes and
making a predator safer yard -- disturbs me, and causes me to think that he is
being arrogant in his wind turbine/bird strike
data). <o:p></o:p></strong></span></div>
<div class="Section1"><p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 12.0pt"><strong><b><font color="blue" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Audubon is very aware
of cats and windows killing birds and they are working on those problems, as
they are working on safer wind farms. Modern turbines may be safer for birds,
but they are not safe if placed in the wrong place. While Audubon does support
wind turbines in general, they have a lot of qualifications. In addition, the
Kevin Rim wind farm in <st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Montana</st1:place></st1:state> has a lot of bird and bat lovers
concerned. The European company building that project has made some changes in
location designs, but not enough yet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></strong></p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 12.0pt"><strong><b><font color="blue" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Audubon does not
inequitably state that they support wind farms. Audubon says in part that it is
a lesser evil to have turbines as apposed to raising global warming while using
other energy sources: <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></strong></p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 12.0pt"><strong><b><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Protecting Birds and
Wildlife:</span></font></b></strong><span class="apple-converted-space"><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </span></font></span><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">While Audubon
strongly supports wind power and recognizes it will not be without some impact,
production and transmission facilities must be planned, sited and operated in
concert with other actions needed to minimize and mitigate their impacts on
birds and other wildlife populations. Several federal and state laws require
this and the long-term sustainability of the wind industry depends on it. Wind
power facilities impact birds from direct collisions with turbines and related
facilities, such as power lines. Wind power facilities can also degrade or
destroy habitat, cause disturbance and displacement, and disrupt important
ecological links. These impacts can be avoided or significantly reduced,
however, with proper siting, operation and
mitigation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt; WIDOWS: 2; ORPHANS: 2; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; WORD-SPACING: 0px; mso-margin-top-alt: 12.0pt; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Audubon supports the
adoption of federal and state guidelines on the study, siting, operation and
mitigation of wind power. Guidelines should provide developers, permitting
agencies and conservation groups with the legal, technical and practical steps
needed to minimize impacts on birds and other wildlife. Guidelines should
provide the following essential elements: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1" class="MsoNormal"><!--[if !supportLists]--><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Symbol"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</span></font></span></span></font><!--[endif]--><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Minimum
pre-permitting study requirements and guidance on study methods, frequency and
acceptable data sources to ensure that wind power is sited in appropriate
locations<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1" class="MsoNormal"><!--[if !supportLists]--><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Symbol"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</span></font></span></span></font><!--[endif]--><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Clearly delineated
siting criteria that designate areas where wind power should not be allowed,
such as Important Bird Areas, major migratory corridors, wilderness areas,
national parks, wildlife refuges, and other sensitive habitat such as wetlands
and riparian corridors<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1" class="MsoNormal"><!--[if !supportLists]--><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Symbol"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</span></font></span></span></font><!--[endif]--><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Clearly defined
monitoring and mitigation requirements in permits, with periodic reviews and
requirements for adaptive management if impacts significantly exceed levels
allowed by permit<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1" class="MsoNormal"><!--[if !supportLists]--><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Symbol"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Symbol; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</span></font></span></span></font><!--[endif]--><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Guidance on
cumulative population impacts assessment and
mitigation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt; WIDOWS: 2; ORPHANS: 2; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; WORD-SPACING: 0px; mso-margin-top-alt: 12.0pt; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #444444; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Audubon also
encourages wind developers and permitting agencies to consult with wildlife
experts, including Audubon staff and local chapters, to help inform study and
siting decisions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 12.0pt"><strong><b><font color="blue" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">And, concerns for the
Kevin Rim project are not just about the large number of nesting hawks, but new
data on bat mortality is interesting and
alarming:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></strong></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><a href="http://mtaudubon.org/issues/energy/documents/Wind%20_10-08_JEllis.pdf">http://mtaudubon.org/issues/energy/documents/Wind%20_10-08_JEllis.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><strong><b><font color="blue" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Most of what Bob says
is true, but he needs to do some further research on some of his statements.
</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dorinda
Troutman</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hamilton</span></font></st1:city><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <st1:state w:st="on">MT</st1:state> <st1:postalcode w:st="on">59840</st1:postalcode></span></font></st1:place><font color="navy"><span style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div>
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</span></font></div><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 14pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="#1f497d" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></font></b><font color="#1f497d" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Solarguy<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:30
PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b>
'RE-wrenches'<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[RE-wrenches] Wind Turbines killing birds and bats</span></font><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">By some estimates, outdoor
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">cats in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region>
kill more than 1 million birds every day</font></b></strong> on average. Other
studies suggest the death toll is as high as 1 billion per
year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><a href="http://blog.nwf.org/2011/03/new-studies-highlight-impact-of-outdoor-cats-on-birds-and-other-wildlife/">http://blog.nwf.org/2011/03/new-studies-highlight-impact-of-outdoor-cats-on-birds-and-other-wildlife/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Jim
Duncan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Drake,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">There is nothing
to it that is documented and recent. There were some problems years ago (20 –
30) due to tower design and poor placement.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">The towers are a
different design and it was never a serious issue in any case. Years ago the
towers were a freestanding design with many places to perch and look for game to
pick off for lunch. Rotor diameter is also considerably larger and slower now.
Something like 20 rpm vs. 200 rpm. I have watched black birds chase a hawk
through the sweeping rotor for 10 -15 minutes, no problems. It might have been
the hawk leading the black birds through the rotor. Either way it was fun and
fascinating to watch! I think I videotaped it but it was years ago and I have no
idea where it might be.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">My house windows,
cat and car get MANY more birds than my turbine ever has. The cat and car do
fairly well, when birds fly into the windows it is loud and not good for the
birds at all. I have never found a dead bird under any of the turbines that I
service.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">I did find a dead
bird in its nest that was inside a nacelle once, it was uninjured and just dead,
no sign that it was damaged at all. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">There is all kinds
of misleading stuff like those links out there, it’s just not accurate and done
by the anti wind folks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Hope this
helps,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Bob
Ellison<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi Drake, </span></font><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">I was doing some
research for this and have it in my computer
somewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">But while there
are bird deaths, most are from the older style ( very low and using guy
wires).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Also to keep it in
perspective, the numbers killed by buildings is 10,000's of times
greaterand guyed towers are also much more of a
problem.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">To add further,
the national Audubon society is OK with wind machines for the last number
of years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">jay<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">peltz
power<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </span></font><font color="#1f497d" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Drake<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:18
PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> RE-wrenches<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> [RE-wrenches] Wind Turbines
killing birds and bats<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hello Wrenches, <br><br>A
very knowledgeable friend has concern about wind turbines killing birds and
bats, and sent me these links. From previous posts on this list and
information I've heard elsewhere, I thought this really wasn't much of an issue,
more of a red herring by those who are opposed to wind energy.<br><br><a href="http://www.batsandwind.org/pdf/baerwald%20et%20al%20current%20biology%202008.pdf">http://www.batsandwind.org/pdf/baerwald%20et%20al%20current%20biology%202008.pdf</a>
<br><a href="http://coalicionventanasverraco.org/files/horn_et_al_2008.pdf">http://coalicionventanasverraco.org/files/horn_et_al_2008.pdf<br></a><a href="http://www.batsandwind.org/main.asp?page=research&sub=operational">http://www.batsandwind.org/main.asp?page=research&sub=operational</a>
<br><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090928095347.htm">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090928095347.htm<br><br></a><a href="http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/collisions/pdf/wind_rulemaking_petition.pdf">http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/collisions/pdf/wind_rulemaking_petition.pdf</a>
<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_wind_power">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_wind_power<br><br><br></a>How
much of an issue is this really? Can we put the danger into
perspective? Does this kill more bats and birds than the pollution it
displaces? <br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Drake <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Drake
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License 44810 <br>CO license
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