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Thank you all for your replies. I'm encouraged to hear that there
really isn't a problem with turbines killing birds.<br><br>
I'd never heard of a bat killing issue before. Has anyone heard any
information, pro or con, about that issue?<br><br>
<br>
Thanks<br><br>
<br>
Drake<br><br>
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At 07:47 PM 6/21/2012, you wrote:<br>
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<font face="Calibri" size=4 color="#1F497D">Drake,<br>
There is nothing to it that is documented and recent. There were some
problems years ago (20 – 30) due to tower design and poor placement.<br>
The towers are a different design and it was never a serious issue in any
case. Years ago the towers were a freestanding design with many places to
perch and look for game to pick off for lunch. Rotor diameter is also
considerably larger and slower now. Something like 20 rpm vs. 200 rpm. I
have watched black birds chase a hawk through the sweeping rotor for 10
-15 minutes, no problems. It might have been the hawk leading the black
birds through the rotor. Either way it was fun and fascinating to watch!
I think I videotaped it but it was years ago and I have no idea where it
might be.<br>
My house windows, cat and car get MANY more birds than my turbine ever
has. The cat and car do fairly well, when birds fly into the windows it
is loud and not good for the birds at all. I have never found a dead bird
under any of the turbines that I service.<br>
I did find a dead bird in its nest that was inside a nacelle once, it was
uninjured and just dead, no sign that it was damaged at all. <br>
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There is all kinds of misleading stuff like those links out there, it’s
just not accurate and done by the anti wind folks.<br>
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Hope this helps,<br>
Bob Ellison<br>
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mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Drake<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Wind Turbines killing birds and bats<br>
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Hello Wrenches, <br><br>
A very knowledgeable friend has concern about wind turbines killing birds
and bats, and sent me these links. From previous posts on this list
and information I've heard elsewhere, I thought this really wasn't much
of an issue, more of a red herring by those who are opposed to wind
energy.<br><br>
<a href="http://www.batsandwind.org/pdf/baerwald%20et%20al%20current%20biology%202008.pdf">
http://www.batsandwind.org/pdf/baerwald%20et%20al%20current%20biology%202008.pdf</a>
<br>
<a href="http://www.batsandwind.org/main.asp?page=research&sub=operational" eudora="autourl">
http://coalicionventanasverraco.org/files/horn_et_al_2008.pdf</a><br>
<a href="http://www.batsandwind.org/main.asp?page=research&sub=operational" eudora="autourl">
http://www.batsandwind.org/main.asp?page=research&sub=operational</a>
<br>
<a href="http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/collisions/pdf/wind_rulemaking_petition.pdf" eudora="autourl">
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090928095347.htm<br><br>
</a>
<a href="http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/collisions/pdf/wind_rulemaking_petition.pdf" eudora="autourl">
http://www.abcbirds.org/abcprograms/policy/collisions/pdf/wind_rulemaking_petition.pdf</a>
<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_wind_power">
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_wind_power<br><br>
<br>
</a>How much of an issue is this really? Can we put the danger into
perspective? Does this kill more bats and birds than the pollution
it displaces? <br><br>
Thanks,<br><br>
Drake <br><br>
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