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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>NABCEP has been a strangely quiet subject on this forum. FYI - I checked with our honorable moderator prior to posting this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>If we are attempting to expand the field of “certified“ installer and designers why is NABCEP run the way it is?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Getting the NABCEP cert and living in w.CO has been a virtual nightmare & living where I do and having to travel 7 hours each way, stay in a hotel etc, this is a joke. I may be in the minority but point to make here. Beyond that I became a wrench because I do not test well [avoided a 4 year degree] yet I can outline a schematic for electrical or plumbing in my head and build it the first time correctly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>The test schedule and availability - NABCEP needs to open up to local proctoring, libraries, schools, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>2 tests a Year? Electricians can re- test 24 or 48 hours? later and use a variety of resources. Why can we not?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>When an electrician tests they get their results as they walk out of the test room. Why do we have to wait 6 weeks? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>The NEC book is the only reference material at the test when is not doing a trade about knowing your resources and utilizing them? From what I understand any number of professions and trades get to use several resource books. You would think we were going to be secret agents or the like. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>I have done off grid for 24 years. Most NABCEP folk who are GT only have not a clue as to battery based design and should not be allowed to do the same. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>I am "certified" and probably very competent up to 50KW would be just fine but 100KW or 1MW? This is probably not a brilliant idea without a backup coach.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Questions on 3 phase on the test? I would ask my licensed master electrician yet we are asked several questions on 3 phase. I have asked masters and they have had to go look up the answer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>I would suggest a basic GT cert up to 50KW with a supplemental for >50kw and a separate adder for off grid. Tests every 2 month or on a scheduled basis with you local librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>I fly my NABCEP cert in the bathroom and upside down. It is in distress, stinks, and needs help. The re-wrenches is strangely silent on this much damaged product called certification.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>I see some major issues and would like to start a discussion about how it is managed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>I think it needs rethinking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Thanks for considering & your opinion?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Dana Orzel - Great Solar Works, Inc - E - <b>dana@solarwork.com</b> - V <b>970.626.5253</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>F - 970.626.4140 C - 970.209.4076 web - www.solarwork.com <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:green'>P </span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this email</span></i></b><b><i><span style='color:#99CC00'><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>