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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">i have only installed one genewreck... an 8 kW unit installed as grid backup. it sees very little use, but it is a total piece of shit.</p>
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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">i have replaced the starter motor casting mount twice... of course they never bothered to redo the poor initial design, so replacing a broken defective design with a non-broken defective designed part is just stupid, because it is designed to break.</p>
<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">the voltage regulators have failed three times... taking out appliances in the customers home in the process each time.</p>
<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">the battery charger module came miswired from the factory. i spent about 3 hours troubleshooting the wiring to fix it... with reimbursement promises from their horrible 'factory support' which never came.</p>
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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">i have heard similar horror stories from others. i will never touch or recommend a genewreck generator again... never ever!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;">Wrenches,<br />We sold and installed a few Kohler 8.5 and 11 RMY generators in the first half of the last decade. We found over the years that followed that they held up quite well, with very few problems if cared for. <br /><br />We have a customer whose off grid system we cared for for about a decade before she sold her property and moved on. The buyer, with whom I have never spoken, did little research on the property or the PV system before purchase, and is now dissatisfied with the system and has sued the seller. I have been asked to provide some history and guidance to the seller. The system includes an 8.5 RMY Kohler that, when the property was sold, had about 2,000 hours on it and was working well, I recall being told. The buyer has claimed, among other things, that it was "old and near the end of its service life."<br /><br />What kind of life have others seen from these units, and how have they held up in your experience?<br />Thank you,<br />Allan<span class="hoenzb"><span style="color: #888888;"> </span></span></p>
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