<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Darryl,<div><br></div><div>I was able to operate the Splendide washer with a 600 watt made-in-China sine wave inverter. So load is not the issue. The same waveform distortion was present for both, and all subsequent, inverters.</div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Mar 26, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Darryl Thayer wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I am puzzled because I have used and found the Magnum to start loads that other equally sized inverters could not start. I wonder if the hot surface ignitor is not acting like a resistor but somehow non linear. For the washer dryer the wave form was being distorted by the load and interfering with the controls? I have started a two HP pump with a single Magnum, but I never looked at the wave shape. </span></div><div><span>Darryl </span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contenteditable="false" readonly="true"></div> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> "Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems" <<a href="mailto:larry@starlightsolar.com">larry@starlightsolar.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com">Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</a>; RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 26, 2012 4:26 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Wood boiler ignition issue<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv1172450075"><div><div>In the case of the Splendide washer/dryer (see link in my previous post), it was definably the Magnum Energy inverter. I could not start that load (no pun). Since then we have tested several inverters with these washers and all work fine except for the Magnum. I must say that, other than this one fault, the Magnum has been an exceptional, US made inverter and I heartily recommend them.<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote:</div><br class="yiv1172450075Apple-interchange-newline">
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Kristopher,<br>
I have experienced this as well, but have no solution to advise. My
last direct experience with this was about four years ago, when we
installed a system using a Magnum 4448 inverter in a home system in
which a high-efficiency electronically-controlled hydronic boiler
was also installed at the same time. The particular boiler proved
unable to start up reliably on the inverter, but would run reliably
off of a generator. Initially we assumed that the problem was due to
incorrect wiring by the heating contractor (the AC input line and
neutral had been reversed). After this was corrected the problem
persisted. Before we could dig deeper the contractor changed out the
boiler to an equivalent model of a different brand. The problem went
away.<br>
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You may end up having to either change the inverter or change the
boiler. Magnum's tech support showed some interest in pursuing this,
even attempting to duplicate the problem, but we never got that far.
You might wish to contact them about this - it's a legitimate
problem.<br>
<br>
On a related note - has anyone had any issues with powerline-carrier
lighting controls run off of a Radian? We haven't installed
equipment yet, so have no way to test until then. We're supplying
uninterruptible power to an upscale residential observatory that
will have this type of lighting control. We have cautioned the GC
that there's a possibility of incompatibility, and no database of
collected data out there, and we don't assume liability for
incompatibilities. But it sure would be nice to know if anyone else
has seen issues. I don't yet have a lighting brand.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Allan<br>
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On 3/26/2012 12:51 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"><div>Esteemed wrenches,</div><div>I am assisting in troubleshooting a stand alone system with
three stacked Magnum 4448 PAE inverters. The electric ignition
of LP for the wood boiler will not fire from inverter power. As
soon as we fire up the generator, the boiler ignites. Has
anyone seen this before? Is there a solution? The boiler is a
Central Boiler E-Classic 2400.</div><div>Thanks in advance!</div><div>----------<br>
Shine On!</div><div>Kris Schmid<br>
Legacy Solar, LLC<br>
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Frederic, WI 54837<br>
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