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Dave and Mac,<br>
The 2088 would certainly work as well if the desired flow is low
enough. They are rated 2.8 gpm at open discharge, but that goes down
quickly to under 2 gpm at pressure. Your app is close to open
discharge, but running 12V array direct would likely reduce output
to (17/26 X 2.8 =) about 1.8 gpm max. Is that enough? Certainly
cheaper; while designed for intermittent duty as a pressurizing
pump, it would certainly last longer at lower voltage and speed. I
have never tried running one all day, to know how long it would
last. It's somewhat rebuildable (order a "diaphragm/drive kit" and a
"valve kit" for the owner if you go this route; replacement motors
aren't available). Cheap enough, too, to be considered disposable;
just not my preferred route to advise a customer.<br>
Allan<br>
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On 2/24/2012 10:21 AM, David Katz wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
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pump to do this job is the LVM Amazon, which is made in
England, will pump 3 or 4 GPM at 10 feet of head and costs
around $70. They are made to run on a 12 volt battery and
cannot handle more than 14 volts, so a small battery and
controller are required. You can use a low cost regulator
and a relay powered by the module to only run the pump when
the sun is shining.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:
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Surflo 2088, use the 24 volt version with a nominal 12 volt
36 cell module array direct. This way the pump never sees
too high of a voltage. It will operate at 17 to 18 volts,
pump slightly less then spec says at 24 volt, but since it
is positive displacement it will pump fine at the low
voltage. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 24, 2012 7:50 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am looking for a relatively low cost
solar pumping system. The system has about 10 ft of
elevation head and he just wants to water his garden which
is about 200' away horizontally. It can either be a
submersible pump or a pump that can produce some suction.
Any experience with this? Everything I've looked at thus
far has been overkill and/or fairly expensive.<o:p></o:p></p>
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