Hi Chris,<div><br></div><div>I suspect that the charger in the Apollo Inverter/Charger is undersized, especially since all of the loads are -48V.  Conversely, the array is very oversized and the controllers float most of the time.  The charge controllers were working fine last I checked.  It's difficult to access the site right now, it includes a 30 mile snow mobile ride.  We intended to put a comprehensive remote monitoring system but it didn't get put in before the snow came.  I want to get up there and help the system limp along until snow melt when we can do a thorough assessment.</div>
<div>The generator guy went up there and someone had pulled the stop switch on the genset.  The battery voltage was around 5V on a 48V bank.  Yikes!</div><div><br></div><div>  Thanks for the contact info.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Chris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris@solarwindworks.com" target="_blank">chris@solarwindworks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi Mac,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">

<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We had a cell failure on an Absolyte system we inherited and contacted;<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Jeff Lambert</span><span style="color:navy"> <br>

</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Product Support and Warranty</span><span style="color:navy"> <br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">East Penn Mfg. Co., Inc. - Unigy Battery Division</span><span style="color:navy"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy">(</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy"> </span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy">Office: <a href="tel:%28610%29%20682%20%E2%80%93%206361%20ext.%202848" value="+16106826361" target="_blank">(610) 682 – 6361 ext. 2848</a></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">  </span><span style="color:navy"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">| </span><strong><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Webdings">È</span></strong><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy">Cell: <a href="tel:%28484%29%20955%20%E2%80%93%202899" value="+14849552899" target="_blank">(484) 955 – 2899</a> </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">| </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy"> </span><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:navy">Ç</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Page:  <a href="tel:888-797-8039" value="+18887978039" target="_blank">888-797-8039</a> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"> </span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy">(If no answer on Cell)</span><span style="color:navy"> </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy"> |  </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy">*</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy"> </span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy">Email</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">:</span><span style="color:navy"> </span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy"><a href="mailto:jlambert@eastpennunigy.com" title="blocked::mailto:jlambert@eastpennunigy.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:navy">jlambert@eastpennunigy.com</span></a></span><span style="color:navy"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jeff was very helpful.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I do wonder if your charge controllers are getting the array power out to the battery bank, was there any damage to them too? Is the Apollo 4048 inverter/charger doing its job, is it undersized for the size of battery bank?<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy">Sincerely,<br>

<br>Chris Worcester<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy">Solar Wind Works<br>NABCEP Certified PV Installer<br>Phone: <a href="tel:530-582-4503" value="+15305824503" target="_blank">530-582-4503</a><br>

Fax: <a href="tel:530-582-4603" value="+15305824603" target="_blank">530-582-4603</a><br><a href="http://www.solarwindworks.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">www.solarwindworks.com</span></a><br><a href="mailto:chris@solarwindworks.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">chris@solarwindworks.com</span></a><br>

"Proven Energy Solutions"</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>

<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>mac Lewis<br>

<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Absolyte recovery<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Wrenches,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We have inherited a Telecomm system in which the batteries have had a very hard life.  A lighting strike knocked the system off line for about 5 months, and ground fault dragged the batteries way down about a month ago.  Now, we are seeing about 10h of generator run time/day indicating to me that the batteries are not holding voltage at all.<u></u><u></u></p>

</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">  I am uncertain of the exact specs at this moment, but it is a 24 Absolyte IIP batteries (5 years old), with a 5 kW array, two Apollo T80HV charge controllers and an Apollo 4048 inverter charger.<u></u><u></u></p>

</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>I don't have experience with these batteries.  Is there any way to try to recover these batteries?  Any good contacts with GNB would be useful.</span><u></u><u></u></p>

</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thanks</span><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">

<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Wrenches,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We have inherited a Telecomm system in which the batteries have had a very hard life.  <span style="color:#888888"><br clear="all">

<span><u></u><u></u></span></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="color:#888888">-- </span><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>

</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">

<span><span style="color:#888888">Mac Lewis</span></span><span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#ff9900"><u></u><u></u></span></b></span></p><p><span style="color:#305a78">"Yo solo sé que no sé nada." </span><b><span style="color:#686868">-Sócrates</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Mac Lewis<b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#ff9900"><u></u><u></u></span></b></p>

<p><span style="color:#305a78">"Yo solo sé que no sé nada." </span><b><span style="color:#686868">-Sócrates</span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#ff9900"><u></u><u></u></span></b></p>

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