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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Correct link for
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Trojan Premium T-105RE:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">See here:
<a href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/T105RE_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf">
http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/T105RE_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> John DeBoever
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 17, 2012 11:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jason,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I understand.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Trojan Signature L16P and L16H and Trojan Signature T-105 have the same cycling performances, i.e. 1,200 cycles @ 50% DOD.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">See here:
<a href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/T105_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf">
http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/T105_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf</a> <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Trojan Premium L16RE-A, L16RE-B, L16RE-2V and Trojan Premium T-105RE have the same superior cycling performances, i.e. 1,600 cycles @ 50% DOD.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">See here:
<s><a href="http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/T105_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf">http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/T105_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf</a></s><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If everything else is equal in the design sizing, and if we compare same category ( Trojan Premium or Trojan Signature), one can look for maintenance requirements
related to the form factor difference between a T-105’s and L16’s. The interval between equalization will be most likely shorter for a L16’s and maybe field experience is showing that end users systems do not adjust the adequate settings for the frequency
between equalizations for their application specifics? Also, while we just agreed that everything else is equal in the design sizing, it remains that the loads are larger when featuring L16’s. Maybe the dynamics of the load is less easy to predict (than we
wish) in a large loads applications, and, one may find end users facing a battery bank deeper DOD than projected? More reasons to monitor S.G. for 2-3 months of use and adjust the period for equalization and watering. As for the battery technology, a lead-acid
monoblock battery that is built by a good company that has good plate weight control and each cells are well balanced through quality control, there should be no big differences within one category.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I hope this shed some light on your valid question.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jason Lerner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello John,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for your response. Often L16's need to be used over T-105's at a certain price point to get more amp hour capacity with less parallel strings. That said, we have found that a properly sized battery bank with T-105's will typically
last longer than a properly sized battery bank of L16's. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could you comment on the build differences between the L16 and T-105 that might illustrate why this is?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jason Lerner<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Waldron Power and Light Co.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Feb 16, 2012, at 11:48 AM, John DeBoever wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jason,</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Deep-Cycle require thick plate. Higher current require plate surface. In a same format case, for the same weight, you can either have few thick plates or a
higher number of thinner plates. Trojan true deep cycle flooded batteries feature thicker plates and a resulting lower capacity than an standard non-deep cycling battery in the same battery case form factor and total lead weight . A deep cycle “L16” offers
a larger case, thus a larger surface per plate, thus a larger Ah capacity. Attention is paid to have good flow of the electrolyte and a decent mud well in the L16 case. Adequate equalization charge is meant to equalize the cells and reduce stratification of
the acid in the electrolyte.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Of the other factors that influence deep cycle performances of Trojan antimony flooded lead acid battery:</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">ü</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A
Trojan exclusive paste (active material) formulation, made up of Alpha and Beta lead crystals.</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alpha
crystals provide mechanical strength to the paste and is the better electrical conductor of electrons. Beta crystals provides better discharge capacity and are relatively easier to form than Alpha crystals.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">ü</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
addition of a T2 metal agent helps achieve an optimal balance between Alpha and Beta lead crystals which results in a more uniform structure and enhanced electrical conductivity.</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
refined structure allows a porosity development in the plate that achieves a higher sustained discharge capacity with cycling and therefore a higher total accumulated amp-hours during the life of the Trojan battery.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">ü</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D"> <span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Advanced
design, multi-rib, rubber-based separator material formulation inhibits antimony transfer between positive grids to the negative plates, as well help with electrolyte flow.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">John F. DeBoever</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Global Technical Director – Renewable Energy</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Trojan Battery Company</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">12380 Clark Street</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Tel: +1-562-236-3000 Ext. 3139</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#953735">Cell: +1-845-514-7600 – NY office time zone: USA EST (GMT-5)</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Skype: john.f.deboever</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Fax: +1-562-236-3239</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:jdeboever@trojanbattery.com"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">jdeboever@trojanbattery.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.trojanbattery.com/"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">www.trojanbattery.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">-----Original Message-----<br>
From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf
Of Jason Lerner<br>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:56 PM<br>
To: RE-wrenches<br>
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hello Ray and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Why is it that golf cart batteries tend to last longer than L-16's in the same application, small off grid systems? Is the plate thickness or electrolyte vs plate surface
area ratio different? Or is it that the extra height of the L16 contributes to more electrolyte stratification? Or??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Jason Lerner<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">On Feb 14, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Ray Walters wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> No, both golf cart batteries and industrial cells get more cycle life per $.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> Ray<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> On 2/14/2012 1:18 PM, William Miller wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">>> Do any of you have experience with Interstate L-16 batteries? Are they a good value?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">>> William Miller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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