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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wrenches,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Todd,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Trojan Battery manufactures only true deep-cycling lead-acid batteries, from our 4 factories, based in the USA.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Periodic cycling is
<u>not</u> a requirement or benefit in achieving longer flooded lead acid deep-cycle battery life.</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are some valid reasons to prefer flooded lead-acid deep-cycle lead-acid batteries for some residential semi-cycling / semi-floating applications.  Typical
 floating-only applications do not have to feature a true deep cycle, although our Trojan products will work fine, without requiring periodic cycling. There are some batteries</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">being marketed and labeled Deep Cycle that are not, and these will be affected by any amount of cycling, which is giving the Lead Acid industry a not so good name.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>toddcory@finestplanet.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">my inquiry is about the health of floating a lead antimony battery bank, in a grid-tie with battery back-up system, where the batteries float 99% of
 the time... considering (not specifically about any particular brand/manufacturer) i have also heard talk about the necessity to have to "work harden" a set of deep cycle batteries to get optimal use and capacity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">in a battery backup system, the batteries wear our from old age, rather than cycling lifespan. it is common for batteries in these systems to go years
 with no cycling. if cycling is healthy for a battery. i'd like to know that. i have heard people speculate on it before, but never got a definitive answer from a manufacturer. i respect jamie and his expertise, so that is why i'd like to hear what he has to
 say about these batteries theories floating out there in wrench land.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">todd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:52pm, "William Miller" <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">william@millersolar.com</a>> said:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:13.5pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Colleagues:<br>
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I am no sure if it would be appropriate for a manufacturer to comment in this forum on the relative merits of two competing battery products.<br>
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Respectfully,<br>
<br>
William Miller<br>
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At 12:27 PM 2/15/2012, <a href="mailto:toddcory@finestplanet.com">toddcory@finestplanet.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">i would LOVE it if jamie surrette would chime in on this comment.<br>
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todd</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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