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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>No I am not disillusioned at all, they make the best small engines I have ever used. That said as with most things you get what you pay for.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>They may have changed things to work better with propane. I know there is a CHP <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>unit being made in Utica NY, that uses a small Honda on Natural Gas to combine heat output and power in houses.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Bob Ellison<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Drake<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:19 AM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> RE-wrenches<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>Bob,<br><br>Thanks for the heads up. Dropping valves sounds alarming. This one likely has its 400 hours, as the crew that is working on the house runs it all day to operate tools and space heat. Maybe like the man falling out of a 40 story building was heard to say, passing the 20th floor, so far so good!<br><br>Are you disillusioned with Honda? If so, why? <br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Drake <br><br>At 08:23 PM 1/16/2012, you wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;<br> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FE_01CCD48C.B6F43770"<br>Content-Language: en-us<br><br></span></font><font size=4 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I am a reformed Honda Engine dealer, last that I knew Honda built NO engines to run on propane. <br>It seems that after 400 or so hours they had a bad habit of dropping a valve from lack of lubrication (or so I ASSume) to the valve train I have seen 3 or 4 engines do that, and I have only seen 4 or 5 Honda engines with propane conversions. <br>There are companies that do the conversions and just handle the warranty on their own.<br> <br>Just another opinion,<br>Bob Ellison<br> <br></span></font><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"> mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Drake<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 16, 2012 6:50 PM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com">Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</a>; RE-wrenches<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Request for Gennie Recommendation<br></span></font> <br>I'm installing a small off grid system that has an existing generator. It is a Honda EU 6500 converted to run on propane. It is sweet. I haven't found out yet if the conversion cancelled the warranty. <br><br>This would be too small for Allen's current project, but it seems like a good solution for many systems. <br><br><br><font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Drake Chamberlin <br>ATHENS ELECTRIC LLC<br>OH License 44810 <br>CO license 3773<br>NABCEP Certified PV<br></span></font>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Options & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a> <br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Drake Chamberlin <br>ATHENS ELECTRIC LLC<br>OH License 44810 <br>CO license 3773<br>NABCEP Certified PV</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>