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Mark,<br>I believe the Midnite Classic has this feature built in. Check with them.<br>David Katz</font><br> <br>
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<b>From</b>: Mark Dickson [mailto:Mark@OasisMontana.com]
<br><b>Sent</b>: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:00 AM<br><b>To</b>: 'RE-wrenches' <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
<br><b>Subject</b>: [RE-wrenches] Shedding ice
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I recall a conversation a while back about
the possibility of “reversing” the current in a solar module to
increase the cell temp enough to shed ice/rime. To follow-up, has anybody
been successful at this? I am guessing, if so, it would entail, removal
of diodes, increasing PV and battery capacity and some way to sense the ice at
the very least. . . It sounds good in theory, but I am skeptical as to whether
it will work in reality. . .<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy">Mark Dickson,</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="ArialMT"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:ArialMT;color:navy">NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer
™<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy">Oasis Montana
Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext"> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Allan Sindelar<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 16, 2012
10:52 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Request
for Gennie Recommendation</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Wrenches,<br>
I very much appreciate this ongoing thread, thank you.<br>
<br>
This actually feels like one of those "damned if you do, damned if you
don't" scenarios. The system is six years old, poorly designed and
installed. Two SW5548s, most likely chosen in order to run a 2HP conventional
well pump for this manufactured home. Thirty-two L16s in four strings, in two
unvented battery boxes in an unheated shed at 7800'. 1.66kW of PV plus an H40?
wind generator, in an area not known for great wind resource. The inverters
either were never programmed correctly or lost programming the first time a
battery was replaced, so the batteries never got above default 57.6V and were
never equalized. When the L16s started failing, the installer instructed the
owners to replace individual batteries, over and over until 17 of the 32 had
been replaced, one or two or four at a time. With a continuing stream of
failing cells, each time the well pump came on the voltage dropped to
"must start" and the generator came on. With default programming, the
inverters would charge to 57.6V (if the batteries would get up there - not sure
if they ever did), then go through the two-hour absorption, then shut off and
soon the cycle would repeat.<br>
<br>
The installer put a Link-10 in the home, but without a prescaler, so it
couldn't work on a 48V system. So he tapped off of part of one string. All
monitor programming was at default settings, so the system monitor had been
useless to the homeowners since installation. This was designed and installed
by someone in business doing wind and PV since the 1980s. His website claims he
is "</span></font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial">the
most experienced contracting company in the Southwest specializing in
electric/electronic installation, service and repair of independent, remote or
utility integrated power generation power supplies. We provide electrical
engineering design, specializing in on-site electrical power generation and
related control systems." </span></font>This is some mighty poor work.<br>
<br>
Our immediate "rescue solution" was to string together 16 of the
replacement batteries, program the inverters to corrective EQ, show the
homeowner how to change inverter settings, and replace the Link-10 with a
TriMetric with prescaler, guessing at 500 amp-hours. At first this appeared to
have failed - the battery voltage rose quickly under charge and then fell just
as quickly. But we later learned that this actually worked, as they told us
that after running a long corrective EQ, the batteries came back and the
generator ran far less. But then the existing generator failed to start;
apparently just worn out, and they're in bad shape.<br>
<br>
We plan to add about 2-2.5kW of array, although we have no load profile from
them yet. The existing array is on two poles. The (original) smaller array of 8
Sharp 80W 12V modules is shaded during winter by the larger array of 6 Sharp
170W modules during the mornings. The larger array is shaded by both a juniper
tree on winter mornings (until after 11 am) and by the power equipment shed on
winter afternoons (after 3 pm). The ground is frozen now, so we have no easy
way to either increase the array of move the existing arrays out of where they
shade each other.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">They
have two SW5548s, so need around 15kW at 7800' to run the inverters at full
capacity. The unknown is that we don't yet know what size the new battery bank
will be; my SWAG is about 1,000 a-hr in a single string of industrial cells.
Together the SWs can charge at 120A, so 1,000 A-hrs would be a good match. You
are correct that the generator run time will be greatly reduced once the array
is increased, the batteries replaced, and their loads reduced through customer
education. But they need a gennie right away, as their PV and wind can't keep
up and the system is shutting down. I'm hesitant to recommend a generator of
less than industrial quality, given their experience to date with two
residential units. And any good generator has a 4-6 week lead time. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">What
would you do in this situation?<br>
Allan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">P.S.
Chris Mason, your website doesn't jive...I went to <a href="http://www.cometsystems.co">www.cometsystems.co</a> and got a site that
said "Comet Systems Ltd. is a Certified Reseller for Xorcom PBX products
and Ruckus Wireless." Doesn't appear to have anything to do with either PV
or generators. Can you enlighten us?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold">Allan Sindelar</span></font></b><br>
<font size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"><font color="#000099"><span style="color:#000099">Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</span></font></a></span></font><br>
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On 1/16/2012 9:03 AM, Dave Palumbo wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,
73, 125)"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">It
would be very helpful if you quote “run hours” rather than
“years”. <u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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73, 125)"><u1:p><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,
73, 125)"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">For
example we have seen:<u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="msolistparagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:rgb(31,
73, 125)"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Inexpensive
small generators (generally not worth rebuilding) 300 to 500 hours. These are
gasoline models of various brands and Generac LP gas models. 3kW to 10kW in
size typically.<u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="msolistparagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:rgb(31,
73, 125)"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Honda
gasoline generators 2,500 hours and then rebuild. <u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="msolistparagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:rgb(31,
73, 125)"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">10kW
Kohler water cooled diesel gen set still operating within specs at 9,600 hours
(rebuilt after 5,500 hrs). This has been in service for 16 years, the first 4
years without inverter/battery system, and another 6 years before the client
had us add a PV array to the system. Since adding the PV array the generator
has run 200 hours per year.<u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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73, 125)"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">All
are in off-grid service and loaded at 65% MAX continuous (see some surges
higher than 65%, typically run at 60%, or below, of rated power).<u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,
73, 125)"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">David
Palumbo<u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,
73, 125)"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Independent
Power LLC <u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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73, 125)"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">462
Solar Way Drive<u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-style:italic"><a href="http://www.independentpowerllc.com">www.independentpowerllc.com</a>
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73, 125)"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">NABCEP
Certified PV Installer<u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Partner<u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Years Experience, (802) 888-7194 <u1:p></u1:p></span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Comet Systems<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 16, 2012
10:21 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:Howie@catamountsolar.com">Howie@catamountsolar.com</a>;
RE-wrenches<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Request
for Gennie Recommendation<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The Generac QT and commercial units do not come with
an ATS, you can buy just the bare machine or have a complete solution designed
for your load.<o:p></o:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The Generac residential machines are good machines, as
long as you understand the intended use. We install lots of them. They are only
designed to be used occasionally, for residential backup. We get customers who
want to run their business all day on a 10KW residential generator and are
disappointed that the generator won't last ten years. They are a cheap,
lightweight and cost effective solution for people who get occasional outages.<o:p></o:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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then (s)he needs to pay for a commercial level product. A 22KW QT is not that
expensive and will last ten years at a substantial load factor. If you give me
more information on the location, load factor and loading, I can have
engineering recommend a solution for you.<o:p></o:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">President, Comet Systems Ltd<o:p></o:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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