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    I, 2nd Allan's recommendation, or better, use sealed batteries,
    since its battery backup, and so small.  People are bad about
    battery maintenance on anything but off grid.  You definitely can't
    afford to have hydrogen sulfide going up through the building.<br>
    <br>
    Ray Walters<br>
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    On 12/31/2011 8:12 AM, Allan Sindelar wrote:
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      Jeff,<br>
      I would use a Power Vent by Zephyr Industries. In addition to a
      12V or 48V fan, his units have a built-in backdraft damper.
      Negative building pressure under certain conditions would be a
      concern of mine, so I wouldn't rely on angle to ensure exhaust
      always travels up and out.<br>
      Allan<br>
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        <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><b>Allan Sindelar</b></font><br>
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          <span style="font-size: 10pt;">NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic
            Installer<br>
            NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>
            New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>
            <b>Positive Energy, Inc.</b><br>
            3201 Calle Marie<br>
            Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br>
            <b>505 424-1112</b><br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/" target="_blank"><u>www.positiveenergysolar.com</u></a><o:p></o:p></span></font>
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      On 12/31/2011 7:59 AM, JRQ wrote:
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          <div><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:
                rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family:
                Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Wrenches,</span></span></div>
          <div><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:
                rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family:
                Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"><br>
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          <div><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:
                rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family:
                Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">I'm
                looking at a potential battery backup system wtih a 200
                AH @48V flooded battery bank in the basement electrical
                room of a 3 story building. There is a window in the
                electrical room. The batteries will be located about 10'
                from an outdoor wall. The building is all reinforced
                concrete, so I can not run a vent pipe vertically from
                the batteries. Does anyone have a rule of thumb for how
                much the vent pipes can be angled from the batteries?
                Would it be more lenient for short sections of pipe (say
                <2') versus one long angled piece from the batteries?
                My instinct would be to keep the pipe no more than 45˚
                from plumb.</span></span></div>
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                rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family:
                Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"><br>
              </span></span></div>
          <div><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:
                rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family:
                Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Or with
                bending the vent pipe: does anyone have a best-practice
                rule for the sum of the angles of bends?</span></span></div>
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                rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family:
                Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"><br>
              </span></span></div>
          <div><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:
                rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family:
                Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Thanks,</span></span></div>
          <div><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:
                rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family:
                Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Jeffrey
                Quackenbush</span></span></div>
          <div><span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:
                rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family:
                Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">NABCEP
                Certified PV Installer</span></span></div>
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                rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family:
                Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12px;">Peripatetic
                Solar Technician</span></span></div>
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                Drake <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a
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                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:08 PM<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                [RE-wrenches] Pole Mount PVC<br>
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                <div> Hello Wrenches,<br>
                  <br>
                  With pole mount systems, It looks cleaner and is safer
                  to run the PVC conduit down the pole into the
                  concrete, and use a 90 degree elbow to come out
                  through the side of the anchor underground.  This way,
                  the pipe is protected from mechanical damage, and
                  there is nothing to trip over when adjusting the array
                  for seasonal tilt.  <br>
                  <br>
                  I was told that some building departments will not
                  allow this.  Has anyone had a problem with using this
                  method, either technical or legal?   How do you like
                  to route your conduits?<br>
                  <br>
                  Thank you,<br>
                  <br>
                  Drake <br>
                  <div> <font size="2">Drake Chamberlin          <br>
                      ATHENS ELECTRIC LLC<br>
                      OH License 44810         <br>
                      CO license 3773<br>
                      NABCEP Certified PV<br>
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