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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ll try to get you a picture, but we typically use a 4x4x4 PVC box or larger depending on how many strings we need and drill through the back like you suggested. There is plenty of volume for the Enphase wiring. The other solution would be to use some aluminum 2” x 1/4” bar material or flat plates to span the existing holes in the tabs and attach the bar/plate to the rail using 3/8” hardware.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jason Szumlanski<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fafco Solar</span><span style='font-size:4.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Miller<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 18, 2011 1:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase J-box brackets<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jason:<br><br>How do you use 3/8" hardware to attach a bell box to a module mounting rail? Could you share a picture of your typical practice?<br><br>The standard bell box has small, flimsy tabs to be installed on opposite corners of the box. Only one of these tabs would line up with the slot in the rail and the tab is too small to drill a 3/8" diameter hole. (We have drilled a hole in the back of these boxes and used hardware with neoprene washers, but this takes up valuable volume inside the box and is generally not a preferred method. More importantly, this would not allow the box to be mounted across the end of the rail, a most advantageous position.)<br><br>You may not be aware that the brackets depicted have holes to allow 8/32 machine screws in each of the 4 corners of the back of the bell box, making a very secure connection. The bracket allows mounting a box across the end of the rail opens many possibilities for conduit routing. A lot of thought went into the design of these brackets and it is too bad they are no longer made. Do you have any spares you did not use?<br><br>William Miller<br><br><br>At 07:29 AM 12/18/2011, you wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Content-class: urn:content-classes:message<br>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;<br> boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CCBD99.DAC6A840"<br><br>Why not just use 3/8” hardware in the rail channel to attach the junction box? Especially if your AHJ allows you to bury the junction box under a module, this works and looks great. Otherwise, just extend the rail outside the last module and attach the box there. I never saw the point of the bracket.<br> <br>Jason Szumlanski<br>Fafco Solar <br> <br> <br><b>From:</b> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>JRQ<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase J-box brackets<br> <br>William,<br> <br>I actually prefer to use Unirac L-brackets for mounting J-boxes. Sometimes I'll use the Enphase one because it comes with the Enphase whip (and therefore I save paying $2.75 on an extra L-bracket). However, I find the L-brackets to be sturdier and less visible.<br> <br>Jeffrey Quackenbush<br>NABCEP-certified PV installer<br>Ninja Solar<br> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> William Miller <william@millersolar.com><br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 17, 2011 11:33 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Enphase J-box brackets<br><br>Friends:<br><br>Enphase has changed the design of the brackets they provide to support a j-box. This is a problem because the new ones are inferior for these reasons:<br>1. They do not have a hole adjacent to the back of a mounted box (to the best of our knowledge). This hole allows for the use of the back hub in a standard "bell" box.<br>2. They can not be mounted offset (to see the benefits and application browse to:<br><a href="http://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/practices/Technical_Procedures/micro-inverter_wiring/_micro-inverter-wiring.html">http://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/practices/Technical_Procedures/micro-inverter_wiring/_micro-inverter-wiring.html</a><br>3. They do not accommodate one and two gang bell boxes.<br><br>I'd like to buy a quantity of these brackets. A jpg depiction is attached. Does anyone have surplus?<br><br>Does anyone else miss these enough to write Enphase and ask that they be reinstated into the catalog?<br><br>Thanks in advance.<br><br>William Miller<br><br><br>Miller Solar<br>Voice :805-438-5600<br>email: <a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">william@millersolar.com</a><br><a href="http://millersolar.com/">http://millersolar.com</a><br>License No. C-10-773985<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Options & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<br><br>Options & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br><br>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com/">www.avg.com</a> <br>Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4087 - Release Date: 12/17/11 19:33:00<o:p></o:p></p><p>Miller Solar<br>Voice :805-438-5600<br>email: william@millersolar.com<br><a href="http://millersolar.com/">http://millersolar.com<br></a>License No. C-10-773985<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>