I had an off-grid customer report that their huge well pump surge caused an insulation melt-down at a tight bend in the wire. <br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Darryl Thayer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:daryl_solar@yahoo.com">daryl_solar@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I have seen the lightening damage at tight bends, but in my electrical career of 60+ years I have not seen any other</span></div>

<div><span>problems. </span></div><div><span>Darryl  </span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">

<font size="2" face="Arial"><div style="margin:5px 0px;padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);min-height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px" readonly></div><b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Ray Walters <<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com" target="_blank">ray@solarray.com</a>><br>

<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 16, 2011 12:11 PM<br>

<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] 90 degree wire bends<br></font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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    It seems that if the strands were stretched and therefore thinned,
    that that would increase resistance, some. I think more importantly,
    the insulation  bunchs up and cracks, and is definitely
    compromised.  Also with strain hardening of copper, I'm sure some
    strands could break internally with a tight enough bend. I've heard
    at least for bare ground wires that lightning will jump off to the
    case at tight bends, but I've never actually seen that. <br>
    Aside from all that, is there actually an increased impedance from a
    tight bend (like in plumbing)? I don't know.  <br>
    I've had to stop more than one journeyman from violating 300.34. I
    just tell them the bends should look like the long sweeps in conduit
    relative to the diameter of the wire: also purdy.<br>
    <br>
    Aloha,<br>
    <br>
    Ray<br>
    <br>
    On 11/16/2011 10:35 AM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote:
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        <div>Some electricians have great fun in making
          90 degree wire
          bends to try and make their enclosure wiring look so purdy.</div> 
        <div>  </div> 
        <div>Given the importance of maintaining wiring
          radiuses, this
          can’t be a good idea, can it?  Is the issue greater resistance
          when the
          wire is bent at a straight 90 degrees (or more)?</div> 
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        <div>Thanks,</div> 
        <div>marco</div> 
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