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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>How much does a $29 part cost your
business when you have to pay a technician to travel to a
jobsite, troubleshoot, submit an RMA or order a replacement,
and return and replace the bad unit? I advise contractors
not to subsidize bad equipment suppliers by doing repairs and
replacements at their own expense. I also advise suppliers to factor in
realistic service costs and support their installing contractors.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Joel Davidson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Jason@fafcosolar.com href="mailto:Jason@fafcosolar.com">Jason
Szumlanski</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 19, 2011 3:47
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Evergreen goes
down</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Sounds like you are making a
good argument for microinverters. We’ve already had that warranty discussion,
but if module mismatch is an expensive and difficult to manage module warranty
issue, microinverters allow you to, a) not replace a bad module, or b) replace
it with a different module if physical size permits.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">All I am saying is that
warranty becomes less of an issue as equipment prices drop. When my DVD player
cost $500 I wanted a warranty. When it cost $29, not so
much.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jason
Szumlanski<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Fafco
Solar<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Joel
Davidson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:48 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Evergreen goes
down<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hello
Jason,</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Warranty
coverage could be a non-issue if you buy from
a company with a warranty escrow account. Still, call-back
costs and finding same-size, same-spec replacement
modules costs do matter. Factor in travel time, labor,
troubleshooting, finding replacement modules, paperwork, phone calls,
etc. to replace 200-watt modules that cost less than $400? Not to mention
how selling bad products and buying from unreliable suppliers affect your
reputation. How many spare modules and inverters can a contractor afford to
stock? The risk is always there because even reputable
manufacturers make bad modules. The pile of bad modules made by reputable
companies keeps growing. Europeans have recently recycled 600 tonnes of
solar modules plus thousands of dead inverters. See <BR><A
href="http://www.waste-management-world.com/index/display/article-display/2373267650/articles/waste-management-world/opinion/2011/08/Solar_PV_Recycling_-_One_Step_Ahead_.html"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">http://www.waste-management-world.com/index/display/article-display/2373267650/articles/waste-management-world/opinion/2011/08/Solar_PV_Recycling_-_One_Step_Ahead_.html</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">600
tonnes at 40 lbs/module = approx 33,000 modules at 150 watts =
approx 5 MW. 5 MW sounds like a lot but is only 0.03% of the 16 GW
installed PV in Europe. Are wrenches seeing less than 0.03% of
the modules they install ending up in the trash or sent back to the
manufacturer?</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Yes,
Astropower made a good module. Some good people use to work there.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Joel
Davidson</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----
Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<A title=Jason@fafcosolar.com href="mailto:Jason@fafcosolar.com">Jason
Szumlanski</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<A title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:10 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
Re: [RE-wrenches] Evergreen goes down<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Pretty soon I believe
warranty coverage will become a virtual non-issue. At well under $2/watt,
does it matter much anymore? Is there really that much risk of product or
performance failure with most reputable manufacturers?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Yes, I paid $10+/w for
Astropower modules over a decade ago, and warranty definitely mattered at
that time.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Anyway… sad to see them go.
We were a big fan for a while.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jason
Szumlanski<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Fafco Solar</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 4pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>boB
Gudgel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 18, 2011 2:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Evergreen goes
down<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>On 8/18/2011 11:10 AM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote:
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Evergreen Solar, one of the last remaining independent
U.S. module manufacturers, announced their plan to file for bankruptcy
protection this week.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Done in by plummeting module pricing no
doubt.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I’m sure you all are getting the same kind of
solicitation emails that I get from mod manufacturers and wholesalers from
across the globe peddling mods at low, low prices, including
Evergreen.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Anyone have any idea what’s going to happen to the
warranty coverage for Evergreen mods? Will they become unwanted,
unwarrantied orphans, a la Astropower?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Sad, sad….<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>marco<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><BR>I'd
beware of newer companies offering say, 50 year warranties
!<BR><BR>Hopefully NOT the new business model
!<BR><BR>boB<BR><BR><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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