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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The main "Official" you'd ever meet is
checking for fishing licenses, etc. Yes, it would only be a small 12V system,
usually DC devices but my thinking was just that if a simple
grounding method would make the inhabitants safer it would be
worth considering -- users don't always exhibit great judgement
after many hours and beers in an enclosed space!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Dropping "non-fishing" (i.e. grounding) lines in
the hole would end up snagging or tangling with active fishing lines --
especially when you get one on the line.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Would an ice or water grounding connection have any
effect at all?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Charlie Pickard<BR>Aladdin Solar<BR></FONT><FONT
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=ray@solarray.com href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">Ray Walters</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:59
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding
system for a shack on a frozen lake?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>There are many RVs out there too, and they don't sink a ground
rod every <BR>time they park.<BR>Use a GFCI outlet, and I think you'll be at
the same safety level as <BR>other portable systems.<BR>(Is there an ice
structure building inspector?)<BR>You could still heat up a copper rod with a
torch and then drive it into <BR>the ice just to say you did.<BR>Post some
pics this winter when its in.<BR>(P.S. optimum array angle will probably be as
much as 80 deg due to the <BR>ice reflection, and peak power could be over
125% of nameplate, use an <BR>amp meter to adjust tilt)<BR><BR>Ray
Walters<BR><BR>On 8/9/2011 7:09 AM, Exeltech wrote:<BR>> First .. why are
you grounding a portable system? It's not required.<BR>><BR>> In
[29 CFR 1926.404(f)(3)(i)], OSHA states the frame of a portable<BR>>
generator need not be grounded (connected to earth).<BR>><BR>> If it's a
fuel-powered generator, the NEC 250.34 states the frame may<BR>> serve as
the ground as long as normally non-current-carrying metal parts<BR>> of
equipment and the equipment grounding conductor terminals of the<BR>>
receptacles are connected to the generator frame.<BR>><BR>> This is even
more applicable if the system is all low-voltage DC
only.<BR>><BR>><BR>>
Dan<BR>><BR>><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>List
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