<font face="arial" size="4"><p><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14pt;">If the DC & AC float from the ground, your </span><span style="font-family: arial;"><span style="font-size: 19px;">clients</span></span><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14pt;"> will effectively be insulated from any current path unless they were to somehow touch both conductors simultaneously. Many countries do not reference one of their current carrying conductors to ground. Many people feel this is safer. You would be doing the same thing here.</span></p>
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<p style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14pt;">On Tuesday, August 9, 2011 4:27pm, "Drake" <drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org> said:<br /><br /></p>
<div id="SafeStyles1312933505" style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14pt;">I think the system would be technically required to have an equipment grounding conductor to connect to lighting fixtures made of conductive material. I believe this is true regardless of voltage. If these do not exist, and no metal boxes are in the system and it is only 12 V, then it might be compliant to exclude the ground. If it is only a 12 volt system, I don't believe there is much danger, unless the person has a pacemaker and goes barefoot on the ice. <br /><br /> 410.46 Methods of Grounding.<br /> Luminaires and equipment shall be mechanically connected to an equipment grounding conductor as specified in 250.118 and sized in accordance with 250.122.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> At 11:50 AM 8/9/2011, you wrote:<br /><br />
<blockquote class="cite">Why ground it at all?<br /><br /> For a low voltage 12v nominal system you can per code install a + and - OC protection and no ground.<br /> But if it was me, I wouldn't ground it at all,<br /><br /> jay<br /><br /> peltz power<br /><br /> On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Aladdin Solar wrote:<br /><br />
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