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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>William,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I do have some new PS Generator start modules(GSM) if you or anyone is interested. Contact me offline.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kirk Herander<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>VT Solar, LLC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>dba Vermont Solar Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NABCEP<sup>TM </sup>Certified installer Charter Member<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NYSERDA-eligible Installer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>VT RE Incentive Program Partner<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Sindelar<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 29, 2011 10:36 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] 2 SW inverters on three phase<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>William,<br>Just a minor note: if I recall, the PS model was the first to eliminate the generator autostart function and auxiliary relays from the unit. It also eliminated the digital display and control panel. It was intended as a low-cost "base model" of the SW series (I heard some installers that the initials stood for Pile of ...). So I don't think that these units can start the generator, unless you can locate an auxiliary genstart unit from that era. You would also need a SW remote in order to program the units.<br>Allan<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"><span style='color:#000099'>Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</span></a></span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br><b>Positive Energy, Inc.</b><br>3201 Calle Marie<br>Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br><b>505 424-1112</b><br><a href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/" target="_blank">www.positiveenergysolar.com</a></span> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:722.25pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On 7/28/2011 12:47 PM, William Miller wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>boB:<br><br>I'd like to run the inverters in the normal fashion with generator input (no PV): (I'd thought these were SW inverters but they are PS series).<br><br>1. The inverters power 120 only loads (shared neutral on two feeders) so the inverters need to be stacked.<br>2. When the batteries get low, the inverters start the generator. The inverters transfer through from the generator power to the loads and charge batteries.<br><br>Can the PS pair do this with a three phase generator? I am beginning to think not...<br><br>William<br><br><br>At 10:56 AM 7/28/2011, you wrote:<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Do you just want to charge batteries and are these regular 120VAC SWs ?? 120/208 ??<br><br>If so, you should just be able to connect each SW from neutral to hot. No stacking necessary.<br><br>A regular SW stacking cable won't work for delta connections because that assumes<br>the phases are going to be 180 degrees (120/240) and not 120 degrees as for 208V delta.<br><br>There was a 3 phase version of the SWs which required a separate 3-way cable and<br>different software in the SW itself.<br><br>boB<br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:23 AM, William Miller <<a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">william@millersolar.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>Friends:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>Is there any way to connect two SW series inverters to two phases of a three phase generator? It seems to me that one could connect three SW inverters with the right stacking cable (or am I confusing Outback inverters with the hub jumper set properly).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>Any input is appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'>William<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>William Miller <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Miller Solar<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Voice :<a href="tel:805-438-5600">805-438-5600</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>email: <a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">william@millersolar.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><a href="http://millersolar.com/">http://millersolar.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>License No. C-10-773985<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Options & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org/">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="%27http:/www.avg.com%27">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3793 - Release Date: 07/28/11<o:p></o:p></p><p>William Miller <br>Miller Solar<br>Voice :805-438-5600<br>email: <a href="mailto:william@millersolar.com">william@millersolar.com</a><br><a href="http://millersolar.com/">http://millersolar.com<br></a>License No. C-10-773985<o:p></o:p></p><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Options & settings:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List rules & etiquette:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Check out participant bios:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></div></body></html>