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<font size="+1">Jim:<br>
<br>
Your comment is very timely and apropos! Talked with the architect
this morning about this as a possible solution. Since the SIPs are
being custom manufactured, they can embed the "ribs" as you
described. That's great for this project, but adding PV as a
retrofit on an existing SIP roof will be a challenge.<br>
<br>
Other Wrenches: Thanks so much for your helpful comments and
suggestions!<br>
<br>
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Gary Willett, PE<br>
<a href="mailto:Gary@IcarusSolarServices.com">Gary@IcarusSolarServices.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 7/26/2011 10:45 PM, North Texas Renewable Energy Inc wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:GPEJJFPLCDGEDNGDFOOFEEBBCPAA.ntrei@1scom.net"
type="cite">
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<div><span class="441453603-27072011"><font face="Arial">Seems as
though a motivated Architect could order custom SIP panels
with dimensioned lumber ribs attached on the inside surface
of the exterior roof panel. It would allow for NS rows of
attachments without puncturing the envelope. </font></span></div>
<div><span class="441453603-27072011"><font face="Arial">We priced
SIP construction years ago and found that mfgrs can build
virtually <u>any</u> wall or roof panel configuration the
design requires. All it takes is more money.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="441453603-27072011"><font face="Arial">That's
why we ended up with 2x6 with spray foam shell.</font></span></div>
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<b>From:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>R Ray Walters<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gary@icarussolarservices.com">gary@icarussolarservices.com</a>; RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Module Racking Attachment
to SIP Roof<br>
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One problem that came up on a project recently, is that your
penetrations (as proposed in your solution below) will
essentially ruin the thermal performance of the SIPs system.
<div>The whole point of the SIPs system is that there are no
thermal short circuits such as framing members that allow
heat to be transmitted around all that insulation.</div>
<div>The project I was referring to was with NREL, and a smart
engineer caught it, and forced the PV contractor to mount in a
way without penetrations.</div>
<div>I also work with very savvy architects that are now
specifying minimal penetrations through the thermal envelope.</div>
<div>I'd suggest a standing seam roof, with S5 clamps. Ask the
roofer to use extra attachment screws, if you're worried.</div>
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One solution could be a product that had a bolt-plate
on the bottom of the SIP, that penetrates the SIP with
long 5/16" threaded bolt(s), and then attaching to the
PV mount at the top of the SIP. The UniRac SolarMount
steel flat-top mount has four 5/16" bolt-holes and
might be a good choice. This method should have no
problem achieving the required pull-out resistance.<br>
<br>
Any suggestions, installation experience, on how to
put PV on a SIP roof?<br>
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Gary Willett, PE<br>
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