<font face="arial" size="4"><p>Have you installed these Alex? I have specified them for a upcoming, local, grid-tied system here in heavy snow country because there is no frame to peel off from ice dams. The mounting system looks highly complicated/confusing. Can you (or any other list members who have worked with these) share with me your installation experience?</p>
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<p>On Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:34pm, "Alex Cozine" <acdc.cozine@gmail.com> said:<br /><br /></p>
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<p>SIlicon energy modules<br /><br />has glass front and back. VERY Durable.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.silicon-energy.com/pdf/SiE-Cascade-Spec-Sheet-V8.2-Rev070111.pdf">http://www.silicon-energy.com/pdf/SiE-Cascade-Spec-Sheet-V8.2-Rev070111.pdf</a><br /><br />almost bullet proof.<br /><br /><br /><br /></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Ray Walters <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />
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<div>My mistake, I just found a spec sheet on the Unisolar 64, and it specifically advertises "No glass" and "unbreakable". I worked on systems with them before, but never sold them, so I assumed the textured top surface was tempered glass all these years. <br /> Many pardons,<br /><span style="color: #888888;"> <br /> Ray</span>
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<div class="h5"><br /><br /> On 7/27/2011 9:21 PM, Carl Emerson wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Hi Guys,<span style="text-decoration: underline;"> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">The discontinued Unisolar US64 did <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> have any glass on the face.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: blue; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">A great product, a shame they stopped manufacture.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Hi Marco;<br /><br /> Regular modules are designed to take quite an impact. I recall one manufacturer that fired 1" ice balls with an air cannon at their modules, and then let visitors throw baseballs at them. It seems the foul balls would be at a lower velocity than a person could throw, but I don't know.<br /> Also the Unisolar 64 module has a glass face, so I just don't know of a framed module without glass.<br /> Possibly you could add a sheet of Lexan (polycarbonate, very tough and transparent) over the top of the array. I would think the losses would be less than 10%.<br /><a href="http://www.modernplastics.com/lexan.html" target="_blank">http://www.modernplastics.com/lexan.html</a><br /> Home Depot sells a corrugated polycarbonate clear roofing panel that could possibly be attached over the top of the module. <br /><a href="http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100049922/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053" target="_blank">http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100049922/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053</a><br /> I've run over it, stomped it, dropped tools on it, it pops right out, no cracking.<br /><br /> Ray<br /><br /> On 7/26/2011 10:58 PM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">I’m looking to install a 10-20 kW system on a roof that’s going to be getting falling foul balls from a nearby baseball field.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">The roof is not appropriate for any of the Uni-Solar peel-n-stick products.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Any recommendations for anything else out there that does not have a glass glazing?Hi Marco</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: Calibri; font-size: 10pt;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;">Thanks,</span></span></p>
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