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This is an interesting observation regarding this that we heard
about.....<br>
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125);">We have a friend from Washington State that also took the
UL class. The instructor was not a UL employee, but rather a
professional installer from Florida. His class was ok, but
nothing in depth for anyone that already has hands on knowledge
of installing PV systems. There was one very troubling aspect of
their training. They had the inverters and disconnect switches
and all the associated components of a PV system on the wall
with one exception. When it came to the combiner, it was clear
that the combiner had been removed from the wall. Written in
pencil was the word “PV combiner”. When asked, the instructor
had to admit that UL forced him to remove the MidNite solar
combiner because it was ETL listed, not UL! Almost all the
combiners are ETL listed. I personally do not think UL is doing
anybody a good service by only discussing UL listed components.
Stick with the experts in training. You all know who they are.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">Robin Gudgel</span></p>
<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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On 7/21/2011 6:52 AM, Glenn Burt wrote:
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73, 125);">Don’t you have to be a licensed electrician as
part of the prereqs to sit for the test?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dan@foxfire-energy.com">dan@foxfire-energy.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] UL PV certification?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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color: black;">I took the UL/NFPA class in Atlantic City
last spring... thinking it might make another useful tool
in the tool box (especially if I could get some kind of
recognition from UL).. I was not impressed. The
presentation was ambiguous, confusing and sometimes
downright misleading. I got more useful information from
Bill Nye the Science Guy.. and no certification. Beware
the Rabbit Hole.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Dan Brown<br>
Foxfire Energy Corp.<br>
Renewable Energy Systems<br>
(802)-483-2564<br>
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NABCEP #092907-44<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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