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Turn him in with all the pics, and invite the inspector to come see
before you fix it.<br>
Its the only way to stop this sort of thing. <br>
DIY is the owner's problem, but anybody getting paid to install
should know what they're doing, no excuses.<br>
I've seen so much BS, I'm really getting sick of it. Send me the
pics and I'll give you credit on my Horror Installs page.<br>
<br>
Ray Walters<br>
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On 5/13/2011 1:08 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote:
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<div>All,</div>
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<div>It was confirmed that this work was done by a local
"contractor" through photographs. Very poor workmanship. The
best one of the job was the UF that was used as the PV output
circuit had the black and the white paralleled as the "+" and
the bare ground was used as the "-". Unbelievable. </div>
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<div>Jesse<br>
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On May 7, 2011, at 6:58 AM, <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dan@foxfire-energy.com">dan@foxfire-energy.com</a>>
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<div>Welcome to the Rodeo partner.. </div>
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Dan Brown<br>
Foxfire Energy Corp.<br>
Renewable Energy Systems<br>
(802)-483-2564<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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NABCEP #092907-44</div>
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] Dangerous installs/installers..<br>
From: Jesse Dahl <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dahlsolar@gmail.com">dahlsolar@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Sat, May 07, 2011 2:45 am<br>
To: RE-wrenches <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
medium;"><span>Wrenches,</span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
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style="font-size: medium;"><span></span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: medium;"><span> The other day on
my travels, I came across a very scary small
stand-alone hunting shack install. All the wiring
is cut extension cords and some UF, the cable from
the charge controller to the batteries is an
extension cord with the 14s paralleled. mice
chewed wire, splices taped and laid on the ground,
mis matched modules (least of the problems). not a
disco or OCPD to be seen. </span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: medium;"><span></span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: medium;"><span>Also a 500W wind
generator 100 yards from the battery bank, feed
with #10s and then spliced to #12s (most of it
just laying on the ground. </span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: medium;"><span></span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: medium;"><span>Now I think the
owner should have some responsibility to stop work
when the see things this awful, but what
can/should we as an industry do about this? What
do we say to people that install stuff like this?
Take them to court?</span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: medium;"><span></span></span><span
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: medium;"><span>A small 2500w with
surge of 5000w inverter was used here with 6
paralleled 12V deep cycle batteries. Powering a
few lights and a vacuum at first, a well pump was
added later. I could see the lights and vacuum,
but a pump? How do you go about wiring the output
of an inverter like this? From a receptacle on
the inverter to what? This guy cut an extension
cord off and splice it to some NM and ran it
inside to the loads. No breaker, I just can't get
over the fact this guy sleeps at night...</span></span><span
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style="font-size: medium;"><span></span></span><span
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
medium;"><br>
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<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
medium;">You should see the photos of this mess...<br>
</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: medium;"><span>Thank you for your
thoughts,</span></span><span
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</span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-size: medium;"><span>Jesse</span></span><span
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