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    Turn him in with all the pics, and invite the inspector to come see
    before you fix it.<br>
    Its the only way to stop this sort of thing. <br>
    DIY is the owner's problem, but anybody getting paid to install
    should know what they're doing, no excuses.<br>
    I've seen so much BS, I'm really getting sick of it. Send me the
    pics and I'll give you credit on my Horror Installs page.<br>
    <br>
    Ray Walters<br>
    <br>
    On 5/13/2011 1:08 PM, Jesse Dahl wrote:
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      <div>All,</div>
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      <div>It was confirmed that this work was done by a local
        "contractor" through photographs.  Very poor workmanship.  The
        best one of the job was the UF that was used as the PV output
        circuit had the black and the white paralleled as the "+" and
        the bare ground was used as the "-".  Unbelievable. </div>
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      <div>Jesse<br>
        <br>
        Sent from my iPhone</div>
      <div><br>
        On May 7, 2011, at 6:58 AM, <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="mailto:dan@foxfire-energy.com">dan@foxfire-energy.com</a>>
        wrote:<br>
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            <div>Welcome to the Rodeo partner.. </div>
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              Dan Brown<br>
              Foxfire Energy Corp.<br>
              Renewable Energy Systems<br>
              (802)-483-2564<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.Foxfire-Energy.com">www.Foxfire-Energy.com</a><br>
              NABCEP #092907-44</div>
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                -------- Original Message --------<br>
                Subject: [RE-wrenches] Dangerous installs/installers..<br>
                From: Jesse Dahl <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:dahlsolar@gmail.com">dahlsolar@gmail.com</a>><br>
                Date: Sat, May 07, 2011 2:45 am<br>
                To: RE-wrenches <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
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                <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
                    medium;"><span>Wrenches,</span></span><span
                    class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: medium;"><span> The other day on
                      my travels, I came across a very scary small
                      stand-alone hunting shack install.  All the wiring
                      is cut extension cords and some UF, the cable from
                      the charge controller to the batteries is an
                      extension cord with the 14s paralleled.   mice
                      chewed wire, splices taped and laid on the ground,
                      mis matched modules (least of the problems). not a
                      disco or OCPD to be seen. </span></span><span
                    class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: medium;"><span></span></span><span
                    class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: medium;"><span>Also a 500W wind
                      generator 100 yards from the battery bank, feed
                      with #10s and then spliced to #12s (most of it
                      just laying on the ground.  </span></span><span
                    class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: medium;"><span></span></span><span
                    class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: medium;"><span>Now I think the
                      owner should have some responsibility to stop work
                      when the see things this awful, but what
                      can/should we as an industry do about this? What
                      do we say to people that install stuff like this?
                      Take them to court?</span></span><span
                    class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: medium;"><span></span></span><span
                    class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: medium;"><span>A small 2500w with
                      surge of 5000w inverter was used here with 6
                      paralleled 12V deep cycle batteries. Powering a
                      few lights and a vacuum at first, a well pump was
                      added later. I could see the lights and vacuum,
                      but a pump?  How do you go about wiring the output
                      of an inverter like this?  From a receptacle on
                      the inverter to what? This guy cut an extension
                      cord off and splice it to some NM and ran it
                      inside to the loads. No breaker, I just can't get
                      over the fact this guy sleeps at night...</span></span><span
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                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: medium;"><span></span></span><span
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                <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:
                    medium;">You should see the photos of this mess...<br>
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                    style="font-size: medium;"><span></span></span><span
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                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: medium;"><span>Thank you for your
                      thoughts,</span></span><span
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                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
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                  </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
                    style="font-size: medium;"><span>Jesse</span></span><span
                    class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><br>
                  </span><br>
                  Sent from my iPhone</div>
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