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<DIV><FONT color=#008000 size=4>isn't this where SEIA and ASES chapters have a
role to educate the public? Or maybe some folks just can't learn--like Joel
said--------------I'm always sadest when an innocent person buys a place with
one of these ' systems '.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008000 size=4>Sure wish they'd get things checked
out before they buy ! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008000 size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008000 size=4>Ken</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#008000 size=4>CommonWealth Solar</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 07, 2011 5:00
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RE-wrenches]
installs/installers..</DIV>
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<P style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Ahem, yes... right here in
Mount Shasta. Thanks guys.</P>
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<P style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Todd</P>
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<P style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">On Saturday, May 7, 2011
12:34pm, "R Ray Walters" <<A
href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</A>> said:<BR><BR></P>
<DIV id=SafeStyles1304801916><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Even a bad solar installer isn't
going to use cut up extension cords; that install was DIY or a "knowledgable"
inebriated neighbor. I lived in the backwoods for many years, and saw even my
own work get turned into horror systems.</SPAN>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">As far as your competitor
doing bad work, we had the same problem for years with a guy who was finally
run out of Taos by the inspector and a growing list of angry customers.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">He's now in California doing
Wholesale Solar.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Your best bet is to turn him
in to the AHJ for illegal contracting, along with pics of the work., but make
dang sure he really did it. Enough complaints and eventually they'll get
him.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Luckily much of the system
can survive without OCP; the array is current limited and won't pop an OCP
anyway, and the house wiring can't actually fry at 2500 watts continuous, so a
battery wiring issue will be the most dangerous situation. (batteries on NEC
systems are not really protected from the most likely dangers like a wrench
being dropped across the terminals)</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">I've rewire dozens of such
monsters, and you don't even want to have your fingerprints on it without
having approval to completely rewire it.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Also, for budget cabin
systems like that, we would often just supply parts and a wiring
diagram, and let them keep the liability.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">It can get cost prohibitive
and unnecessary to bring the whole system up to NEC 2011, my own beautiful
house has 103 yr old Knob & tube wiring that is going great. I only added
AFCI breakers and replaced all the lights with low current CFs.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">You have to suspend some of
the code junky in you, and proceed with common sense, or don't proceed at
all.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Definitely not for the faint
of heart, Good luck,</DIV>
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<DIV>R. Walters</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</A></DIV>
<DIV>Solar Engineer</DIV>
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