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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The current HIP-195DA3 datasheet is here:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://us.sanyo.com/dynamic/product/Downloads/HIT%20Double%20195-1483134.pdf">http://us.sanyo.com/dynamic/product/Downloads/HIT%20Double%20195-1483134.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So it appears that the DA designation means bifacial module… You are correct that not all HIP modules are bifacial. For example, the current model numbers HIP-195BA20 and -195BA19 (aka HIT Power 195) are not bifacial, but do have the “rear-side electrode” below the thin silicon layer. This is what makes it a bit confusing if not familiar with the modules.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The marketing name of HIT bifacials are “HIT Double.” All bifacial part numbers start with HIP, but all HIP part numbers are not bifacial modules. Sanyo is not doing itself any favors by making the model number designations so confusing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bottom line: I need to figure out if the HIT Doubles (bifacials) are affected by these alleged problems. I would assume problems that affect any HIT module would also affect the bifacials, so I may have partially answered my own question.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jason Szumlanski<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fafco Solar<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Sindelar<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 02, 2011 10:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I don't know my HIPs from my HITs either, but I don't think you're correct, Jason. I checked a bunch of pdfs of spec sheets for various Sanyo modules, and it just left me more confused.<br><br>The Sanyo HIP-190BA3/195BA3/200BA3 is a single-face module from around 2006. On the spec sheet is written: "SANYO HIT1 solar cells are hybrids, made of thin mono crystal<br>silicon surrounded by ultra-thin amorphous silicon layers....SANYO HIT solar panels have a black anodized aluminum frame, come pre-equipped with lead wires and plug-n-play connectors.<br><br>The HIT Power 200 from 2008 has on its spec sheet "HIT Power 200 or HIP-200BA19"; also single-face.<br><br>The HIT Power 215N is listed on the spec sheet as "HIT Power 215N or HIP-215NKHA5". <br><br>The HIT Power 200A is only an HIT; the specs list it as "HIT Power 220A or HIT-N220A01", and there's no mention of HIP on the sheet.<br><br>Enough already! Marco, can you send out the Photon article after all? I don't think you were mistaken. Maybe we have a real concern here after all.<br>Allan<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Allan Sindelar</b><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"><span style='color:#000099'>Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</span></a></span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer<br>NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional<br>New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br><b>Positive Energy, Inc.</b><br>3201 Calle Marie<br>Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br><b>505 424-1112</b><br><a href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/" target="_blank">www.positiveenergysolar.com</a></span> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:722.25pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On 4/2/2011 5:24 PM, Jason Szumlanski wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I believe the HIP denotes bifacial HIT modules. These are exactly what is being proposed on the project I am working on. Might need an alternative!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Jason Szumlanski</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Fafco Solar</span><span style='font-size:4.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:rgb(181,
196, 223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a> [<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mick Abraham<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 01, 2011 9:39 PM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Sanyo problems</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I don't know my HIPs from my HITs...wait that didn't sound right...but you see my problem. "Heterojunction with Intrinsic Thin Layer" = HIT. What = HIP?<br><br>Thanks for taking a moment to address this question. Marco & others: if anyone can find a Sanyo Tech Person who would join the Wrench List, it would help us all and probably also help Sanyo.<br><br>Jolliness,<br><br clear=all>Mick Abraham, Proprietor<br><a href="http://www.abrahamsolar.com">www.abrahamsolar.com</a><br><br>Voice: 970-731-4675<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Marco Mangelsdorf <<a href="mailto:marco@pvthawaii.com">marco@pvthawaii.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Esteemed colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regarding the Sanyo problems, I was mistaken.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>They’re having problems with their HIP models.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’m seeking clarification from the author of the article who I know to see whether there have been any HIT problems as well.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My apologies.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>marco<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Options & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Options & settings:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>List rules & etiquette:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Check out participant bios:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre></div></body></html>