<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>I've seen problems reusing jumpers with old quick coat on them.. I figured it must have dried out or something... might have even found someplace that suggested that all terminals be thoroughly cleaned, inspected and redressed anytime the connection is broken.. I ran into one customer who was advised (By a "battery professional") that wire brushes caused significant resistance in battery / lug connections.. and recommended using only razor blades to clean connections.. not sure I'm buying that one.. but you never know.... the way I do connections.. I make sure everything is clean, (Yes with a wire brush) then apply smutz (following the instructions of whatever smutz I'm using) then I like to snug connections a little and then wiggle the jumpers back and forth to give them a bit of a seat before torquing them... (I also like to use flat and lock washers). then I give all exposed metal a final once over with smutz... I've had pretty good luck so far... seen some at 5+ Years as pristine as when I assembled them.. and others start to scum out in less than two... over all I think using quick coat (Or something like it) is better than not... but yes.. I have seen dried out quick coat cause connection failures... db<br></div><div><br>Dan Brown<br>Foxfire Energy Corp.<br>Renewable Energy Systems<br>(802)-483-2564<br><a href="http://www.Foxfire-Energy.com">www.Foxfire-Energy.com</a><br>NABCEP #092907-44</div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] Quick Cote troubles<br>
From: Allan Sindelar <<a href="mailto:allan@positiveenergysolar.com">allan@positiveenergysolar.com</a>><br>
Date: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:12 pm<br>
To: RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
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Wrenches,<br> Russ in our Taos office sent me the following query. I haven't seen this problem before and told him so, but others among you may know more. <br> <br> What problems if any have you had with Quick-Cote battery terminal coating? What else works really well and lasts the life of the batteries?<br> <br> From Russ:<br> We just had a situation involving Quick Cote on battery terminals that has made us question its use for coating battery terminals and cable lugs. We just installed a bank of HUPs on Monday using Quick Cote. First we lost power with just the Trimetric and MX60 powered up -- using an ohmmeter I found the problem to be a single jumper -- I got 7 megohms across two battery terminals connected by a jumper -- so I replaced the jumper and got the Trimet and MX60 powered up again. Then, when I powered up the OutBack inverters, there were sparks on the battery terminals, and the power cut out again. At that point I guessed that the problem must lie with the Quick Cote, since ours has tiny crystals in it (it feels gritty), and I thought those crystals must be holding the cable lugs off the battery terminals a tiny bit. Sure enough, Mark and I took the cables off, wiped off the Quick Cote from the contact surfaces and applied vaseline, and when we powered up the system, no sparks. (So, the jumper I removed probably wasn't to blame for the first loss of power.)<br> <br> Our container of Quick Cote stayed on the truck (which stays parked outside) during the seriously cold weather we got this winter, so it probably froze. I'm guessing that's when the crystals formed. Nowhere on the Quick Cote label does it say to keep it from freezing though.<br> <br> We're going to go back out to another job to wipe off the Quick Cote from the contact surfaces of the battery terminals and cable lugs, since we just installed four new batteries there and used Quick Cote, and I remember it being gritty at that time as well.<br> <br> Is your Quick Cote gritty?<br> <br> Russ<br clear="all"> <br> <br> I told Russ that it always has been gritty. When it's dried out in the can (they often leak), I have added an oil-based carrier to thin it - usually WD40, as it's on the truck - and it's always mixed easily. So it's definitely solvent-based and shouldn't be affected by freezing.<br> <br> I haven't had this problem before. I have found terminal bolts too loose and that has caused failures, but never the coating.<br> <br> Thank you,<br> Allan<br> <br> <div class="Section1"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span class="il"><b style="">Allan</b></span><b style=""> Sindelar</b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><br> <a href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com" target="_blank"><span class="il">Allan</span>@positiveenergysolar.com</a><br> NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer<br> EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br> <b style="">Positive Energy, Inc.</b><br> 3201 Calle Marie<br> Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br> <b style="">505 424-1112</b><br> <a href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/" target="_blank">www.positiveenergysolar.com</a></span></div> </div> <br> <hr>_______________________________________________<br>
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