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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
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[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Allan Sindelar<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 22, 2011
5:47 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Roy Butler<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on"><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Roy</span></font></st1:place></st1:City>,<br>
I have always coated terminals before assembling them, then added a final coat
to the tightened terminal assemblies. That's just how I was taught years ago
and never saw reason to change. It's also one of the tasks I give a homeowner
who wants to get involved in some parts of the installation; owners tend to
like this, and it saves them money doing a careful but tedious task. But I
haven't knowingly had the problem Russ has described.<br>
Allan<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 2/22/2011 5:29 PM, Roy Butler wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Allan,<br>
<br>
I used Quick Cote for years until my local supplier had problems getting it in
a timely manner.<br>
I never had a problem with it but then again, I never put it on the lug/
terminal mating surfaces<br>
prior to making the connections. Then I carefully coated the terminals, making
sure to not<br>
miss any spots.<br>
<br>
I've had several opportunities to have a look at the mating surfaces years
later and never found<br>
any corrosion. I would imagine that grit would indeed create a connection
problem. But you say<br>
you've never seen this yourself?<br>
<br>
I wonder if the formulation has been changed recently?<br>
<br>
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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On 2/22/2011 7:12 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wrenches,<br>
Russ in our <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Taos</st1:place></st1:City>
office sent me the following query. I haven't seen this problem before and told
him so, but others among you may know more. <br>
<br>
What problems if any have you had with Quick-Cote battery terminal coating?
What else works really well and lasts the life of the batteries?<br>
<br>
>From Russ:<br>
We just had a situation involving Quick Cote on battery terminals that has made
us question its use for coating battery terminals and cable lugs. We just
installed a bank of HUPs on Monday using Quick Cote. First we lost power
with just the Trimetric and MX60 powered up -- using an ohmmeter I found the
problem to be a single jumper -- I got 7 megohms across two battery terminals
connected by a jumper -- so I replaced the jumper and got the Trimet and MX60
powered up again. Then, when I powered up the OutBack inverters, there
were sparks on the battery terminals, and the power cut out again. At
that point I guessed that the problem must lie with the Quick Cote, since ours
has tiny crystals in it (it feels gritty), and I thought those crystals must be
holding the cable lugs off the battery terminals a tiny bit. Sure enough,
Mark and I took the cables off, wiped off the Quick Cote from the contact
surfaces and applied vaseline, and when we powered up the system, no
sparks. (So, the jumper I removed probably wasn't to blame for the first
loss of power.)<br>
<br>
Our container of Quick Cote stayed on the truck (which stays parked outside)
during the seriously cold weather we got this winter, so it probably
froze. I'm guessing that's when the crystals formed. Nowhere on the
Quick Cote label does it say to keep it from freezing though.<br>
<br>
We're going to go back out to another job to wipe off the Quick Cote from the
contact surfaces of the battery terminals and cable lugs, since we just
installed four new batteries there and used Quick Cote, and I remember it being
gritty at that time as well.<br>
<br>
Is your Quick Cote gritty?<br>
<br>
Russ<br clear=all>
<br>
<br>
I told Russ that it always has been gritty. When it's dried out in the can
(they often leak), I have added an oil-based carrier to thin it - usually WD40,
as it's on the truck - and it's always mixed easily. So it's definitely
solvent-based and shouldn't be affected by freezing.<br>
<br>
I haven't had this problem before. I have found terminal bolts too loose and
that has caused failures, but never the coating.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Allan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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