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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To add to Brian’s well formulated response, the 2011 NEC is much more detailed and accurate on this subject. Oversizing wire is not a big deal on residential systems, but it is prohibitively expensive in megawatt jobs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bill.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Mehalic<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 11, 2011 11:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Calculation of Maximum Circuit Current<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Maximum current is defined in 690.8(A) as Isc x 1.25. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Minimum OCPD size is defined in 690.8(B) as maximum current x 1.25 (Isc x 1.56). The maximum size, for PV source circuits, is the module maximum series fuse size.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Required conductor ampacity is the greater of Isc x 1.56 or Isc x 1.25 with all conditions of use factors (and the conductor must be protected by the OCPD under conditions of use).<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Brian<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:03 AM, <<a href="mailto:wirewiz@gmail.com" target="_blank">wirewiz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>In studying for NABCEP certification I am a little confused about whether you multiply the short circuit current by 1.25 once or twice (1.56) in order to calculate maximum circuit current in determining wire size. Same for overcurrent protection.<br><br>I have always done it twice (1.56) for both PV source circuit and PV output circuit. Once for over irradiance and once for continuous use.<br><br>But a handout at a recent seminar that I went to totally confused me.<br><br>Can anyone spell it out very clearly?<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>Larry Liesner<br>Wirewiz<br>Westport, CT<br>Phone: 203-644-2404<br>Fax: 203-557-0556<br><a href="mailto:wirewiz@gmail.com" target="_blank">wirewiz@gmail.com</a><br><a href="http://www.wire-wiz.com" target="_blank">www.wire-wiz.com</a><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Options & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>========================<br>Brian Mehalic <br>NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™<br>PV Online Coordinator<br>Solar Energy International<br>Carbondale, CO 81623<br><a href="http://www.solarenergy.org" target="_blank">http://www.solarenergy.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>