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<DIV>My electrician was out of pocket, so I hired a master electrician with
NABCEP citification from a highly reputable company to complete a
battery based system for me with the expectation that he would:</DIV>
<DIV>1) verify that my initial design would be to code and within proper
operating parameters</DIV>
<DIV>2) change any components that did not satisfy his interpretation
of code and make recommendations to any performance issues</DIV>
<DIV>3) communicate these changes to me so that I could have specified
components on site upon his arrival or in a timely manner so that the job may be
completed within the time frame allotted</DIV>
<DIV>4) verify all components were installed to either initial or modified specs
and to code</DIV>
<DIV>5) turn on system to verify all components were operating properly </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What I got was:</DIV>
<UL>
<LI>Array wired incorrectly - he had written instructions. 20 modules to
be 5 strings of 4, he wired array 4 strings of 5...the CC's front end
mosfets appear to be fried due to overvoltage....</LI>
<LI>ground conductor not run to combiner at array</LI>
<LI>"make do" fittings at combiner - they were "job-site adjusted" - not
liquid tite</LI>
<LI>battery cable not run to shunt</LI>
<LI>grounding not completed at power shed (system was turned on without this
being done)</LI>
<LI>improper grounding at house sub-panel</LI>
<LI>Mate plugged into inverter port 3 at Hub</LI>
<LI>No twisted pair run from CC to shunt</LI>
<LI>many times that I arrived on site there was much looking around in the
trailer to find "something that would work" ....a "certified" guy should know
what is on the trailer and that it's properly inventoried before it
goes to site...</LI></UL>
<DIV>I didn't need to pass a test to find these errors that have cost
me a pretty big chunk of money....we all have bad days, but, come on, man.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Conclusion....some people are good at passing tests, but not so good
in the field. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>sent anonymously as possible to protect the innocent....</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=dana@solarwork.com href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">Dana</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">'RE-wrenches'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:46
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP
marketing</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'">The
questions that are presented on the Nabcep “Problem” solving are short on
realistic info and designed to really be multiple guess. Does this really
qualify folks for the real world or just real guessing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'">Dana
Orzel<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'">Great Solar Works,
Inc<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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- <A
href="mailto:dana@solarwork.com">dana@solarwork.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'">V
- 970.626.5253<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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- 970.626.4140<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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- 970.209.4076<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'">web - <A
href="http://www.solarwork.com">www.solarwork.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'">"Responsible Technologies
for Responsible People since 1988"</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'">Do
not ever believe anything, but seriously trust through
action.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Warren
Lauzon<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 07, 2011 8:46 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP
marketing<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">From what I see,
NABCEP is heavily hardware oriented, with only a smidgen of actual problem
solving and/or theory. It totally falls apart with battery based systems,
generally way undersizing them.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The actual
electrical knowledge required is minimal except for code and wiring/hardware
issues. Being certified will not make you capable of much – if any – real
troubleshooting.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com href="mailto:nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com">Nick
Soleil</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
Monday, February 07, 2011 2:16 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Re:
[RE-wrenches] NABCEP marketing<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> To
become NABCEP certified, you only need to have installed 2 PV systems. 1
of those systems can be at a training class, and the other can be on your
brothers house. All that NABCEP Certified means is that I studied a list
of questions, and then passed the test. It is good to know that a
handrailing should be 39"-45" tall, and not 36"-42." However, that
should not come with any title, like 'Certified PV Installer.'
<BR> The experience requirements should be more
stringent. If it required some real experience, it would mean something,
but NABCEP wants as many participants as possible, so anyone can sit for
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Nick Soleil<BR>Project
Manager<BR>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<BR>PO Box
657<BR>Petaluma, CA 94953<BR>Cell: 707-321-2937<BR>Office:
707-789-9537<BR>Fax: 707-769-9037 <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
Dave Palumbo <dave@independentpowerllc.com><BR><B>To:</B> RE-wrenches
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><BR><B>Sent:</B> Mon, February 7,
2011 11:10:21 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP
marketing<BR></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Larry,</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">It’s
easy to become frustrated browsing, or studying, anyone’s marketing these
days. It’s OK to squeak once in a while on topics like this (in my opinion).
NABCEP has not been discussed too much lately and your comment brought some
good discussion to the group. Sounds like you are doing some good things in
your business. Many professionals have not passed the test on the first take.
</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">David
Palumbo</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Independent
Power LLC </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">462
Solar Way Drive</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Hyde
Park, VT 05655</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><A
href="http://www.independentpowerllc.com"
target=_blank>www.independentpowerllc.com</A> </SPAN></I></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">NABCEP
Certified PV Installer</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Vermont
Solar Partner</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">23
Years Experience, (802) 888-7194 </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">
re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>wirewiz@gmail.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 07, 2011 11:54
AM<BR><B>To:</B> RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP is
Union Based? That's news to me!</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I
spent about $1500 for prep course, hotel, etc to pass the entry level exam, so
I have that. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I
spent about $2000 for prep, hotel, plane fare for the certification but I
failed the test. I am taking it again in March. I'm studying harder this
time.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I'm
62 and my memory is not what it used to be and was never good at taking tests.
When I design I have everything on my desk to refer to so I don't have to rely
on my memory. And I just love installing, I've been doing it on boats for 30
years.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I'm
sorry if you think I'm whining, maybe I'll just stop. I'm just a competitive
person and the ad ticked me off.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Larry
Liesner</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Wirewiz</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Westport,
CT</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Phone:
203-644-2404</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Fax:
203-557-0556</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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is not required for the majority of work I do either, but I get a considerable
"edge" over my competition because I have invested the time energy and went
through the stress of taking the exam. It is the same way with NABCEP, I
have shown that I am willing to take the time, energy and stress to get the
qualification. I also appreciate the NABCEP taking the time and effort
to promote ME in their ads. After going through the time and effort, it is
good to get some tangible payback, and you want to take that away from me,
because you do not have the time to take the exam...give me a break! You
have the right to run your business and promote it as you see fit and so do
I! Does any qualification mean that you know everything, of course
not. If any one of us think that, then we should get out of the
business. Cause guess what, we are in a rapidly changing landscape where
we all are continually learning more and growing as an industry.
Otherwise there would not be much use in this blog at all. All an exam
really means is that you took the time, energy and stress to prepare for and
take the exam, which to me is a sign of professionalism. It is about
time our industry grows up! Is NABCEP perfect, of course not, but we all
have the opportunity to help to make this organization the best that it can
be. I applaud the pioneers who had the vision and that were willing to
invest the considerable amount of time, energy and stress to pull it
off. If you can do without it , more power to you, but don't whine to me
about it being unfair that we want to toot our horn about what we are trying
to do for this industry!<BR><BR>Bill<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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