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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Larry,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for your hard dollar numbers
(beyond the $400 fee, for one NABCEP test). </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you look back in the Wrench archives, the
willingness of NABCEP to take their exam to the users was also discussed. I can
remember one very specific example where the user was told the exam would be
scheduled in their neighborhood and once the fee was paid, the user also had
massive travel expenses. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Caveat Emptor.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bill Loesch<BR>Solar 1 - Saint Louis
Solar</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PS You might take heart that there
are some very, very knowledgeable, first class installers on this
RE-wrenches List who have expressed their non interest in NABCEP for a
variety of reasons. </DIV>
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<A title=wirewiz@gmail.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 07, 2011 10:54
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP is
Union Based? That's news to me!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I spent about $1500 for prep course, hotel, etc to pass the
entry level exam, so I have that.
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<DIV>I spent about $2000 for prep, hotel, plane fare for the certification but
I failed the test. I am taking it again in March. I'm studying harder this
time.</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm 62 and my memory is not what it used to be and was never good at
taking tests. When I design I have everything on my desk to refer to so I
don't have to rely on my memory. And I just love installing, I've been doing
it on boats for 30 years.</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm sorry if you think I'm whining, maybe I'll just stop. I'm just a
competitive person and the ad ticked me off.</DIV>
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<DIV>Larry Liesner</DIV>
<DIV>Wirewiz</DIV>
<DIV>Westport, CT</DIV>
<DIV>Phone: 203-644-2404</DIV>
<DIV>Fax: 203-557-0556</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:wirewiz@gmail.com">wirewiz@gmail.com</A></DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.wire-wiz.com">www.wire-wiz.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV>My PE is not required for the majority of work I do either, but I get a
considerable "edge" over my competition because I have invested the time
energy and went through the stress of taking the exam. It is the same
way with NABCEP, I have shown that I am willing to take the time, energy and
stress to get the qualification. I also appreciate the NABCEP taking
the time and effort to promote ME in their ads. After going through the
time and effort, it is good to get some tangible payback, and you want to
take that away from me, because you do not have the time to take the
exam...give me a break! You have the right to run your business and
promote it as you see fit and so do I! Does any qualification mean
that you know everything, of course not. If any one of us think that,
then we should get out of the business. Cause guess what, we are in a
rapidly changing landscape where we all are continually learning more and
growing as an industry. Otherwise there would not be much use in this
blog at all. All an exam really means is that you took the time,
energy and stress to prepare for and take the exam, which to me is a sign of
professionalism. It is about time our industry grows up! Is
NABCEP perfect, of course not, but we all have the opportunity to help to
make this organization the best that it can be. I applaud the pioneers
who had the vision and that were willing to invest the considerable amount
of time, energy and stress to pull it off. If you can do without it ,
more power to you, but don't whine to me about it being unfair that we want
to toot our horn about what we are trying to do for this
industry!<BR><BR>Bill</DIV>
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