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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hey Darryl,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I noticed a typo…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>0.7 A @ 14 V is 10 watts. <span
class=GramE>So 1 W in and 10 Watts out.</span> Still <span class=GramE>a
violation</span> of the conservation of energy by a factor of 10X.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- Peter<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;
color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President<br>
<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State>
Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>
<st1:address
style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"
tabIndex="0" w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">820 Cynthia Ave.</st1:Street>, <st1:City
w:st="on">Los Angeles</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">90065</st1:PostalCode></st1:address><br>
CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br>
<a href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><br>
Ph 323-258-8883, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Mobile</st1:City></st1:place>
323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885<span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Darryl Thayer<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 03, 2011
4:49 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>] Low light panel</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks Peter, I was trying to figure out how to translate from lumens,
good job<br>
Darryl<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Peter
Parrish <peter.parrish@calsolareng.com><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thu, February 3, 2011
5:40:44 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>] Low light panel<br>
</span></font><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:
Arial'><br>
This is a pretty good example of how obscure the various "lighting"<br>
variables are for even solar pros. <br>
<br>
I won't go into the gory details (and they are details of some depth, trust<br>
me). So let's take the following shortcut.<br>
<br>
A decent CFL puts out 60 lumens per watt of power consumed. So, in theory,<br>
one could get 60 lumens from a tiny CFL drawing 1 watt of electrical power.<br>
<br>
One watt of electrical power going into the CFL and 60 lumens out.<br>
<br>
If you illuminated the PV module with those 60 lumens and it produced 0.7 A<br>
@ 14 volts, that would be 20 watts of electricity.<br>
<br>
Lo and behold! You got 20 Watts out from 1 Watt in.<br>
<br>
You have just violated the "conservation of energy" by a factor of
20X.<br>
<br>
- Peter<br>
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Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President<br>
<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State>
Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">820 Cynthia Ave.</st1:Street>, <st1:City
w:st="on">Los Angeles</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">90065</st1:PostalCode></st1:address><br>
CA <span class=SpellE>Lic</span>. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br>
<a href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com"
ymailto="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a>
<br>
Ph 323-258-8883, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mobile</st1:place></st1:City>
323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
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On Behalf Of Carl Adams<br>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:19 PM<br>
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Subject: [<st1:PersonName w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>] Low light
panel<br>
<br>
Hello Wrenches,<br>
<br>
I'm looking for a panel which will provide<br>
0.7A at 12-20V<br>
with only a 60 lumen light source for the irradiance source<br>
<br>
With <span class=SpellE>REgards</span><br>
Carl Adams<br>
<span class=SpellE>SunRock</span> Solar LLC<br>
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