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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Andrew,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Carter era contractors did not kneecap alternative
energy industry in the 1970s, but that's not a wrenches
subject.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Sure, everyone has stories about bad customers,
GCs, subs, equipment, etc. Some of us are honest enough to admit
that we have made a mistake or two. You don't have to work for or with
people you don't like or buy equipment you don't like. But I don't know
anyone in the building or energy industry who does not work with
others.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>Few contractors nowadays do all
the trades in-house. Do you sub out structural engineering, surveying,
roofing, arborist, concrete cutting, crane, etc.? Then what's wrong with
you being a sub if you like the other guy's work and can control
design and electrical installation or whatever you need to control? There are
plenty of decent contractors in your service area who would like to have a good
go-to PV company just as you like to have good go-to roofer. You know your
design and electrical costs and what margin you need for that portion of your
work. So what's the hassle?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Joel Davidson</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=solarenergysolutions@yahoo.com
href="mailto:solarenergysolutions@yahoo.com">Solar Energy Solutions</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 28, 2011 8:41
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Roofers
installing solar = creative,new installation methods</DIV>
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<DIV>Joel,</DIV>
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<DIV>Our company cannot survive without selling an entire system.
When we help the unqualified and untrained we legitimize unsubstantiated
pv businesses. We get a dozen phone calls a month from folks
wanting us to install their systems. It is a rat hole and we
have learned that not only are such ventures unprofitable, they are
fraught with poor designs and a plethora of other hassles. This
whole thing reminds me of the Carter solar Gold Rush where, sure, a
bunch of systems were installed, but look at the damage it did to the
industry.</DIV>
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<DIV>Respectfully, <BR><BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=arial>Andrew Koyaanisqatsi</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=arial>President</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=arial>Solar Energy Solutions,
Inc.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=arial>Since 1987,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=arial>Moving Portland and Beyond </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=arial>to an Environmentally Sustainable
Future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=arial></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=arial><STRONG>503-238-4502</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=System><A
href="http://www.solarenergyoregon.com/" rel=nofollow
target=_blank>www.solarenergyoregon.com</A> </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="comic sans ms"><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="comic sans ms"><STRONG>"Better one's House too little
one day</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="comic sans ms"><STRONG>than too big all the Year
after."</STRONG></FONT></DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 1/28/11, Joel
Davidson <I><joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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Joel Davidson <joel.davidson@sbcglobal.net><BR>Subject: Re:
[RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar = creative, new installation
methods<BR>To: "RE-wrenches"
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><BR>Date: Friday, January 28,
2011, 7:06 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Guys,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>You're missing a business opportunity.
Instead of complaining about roofers' bad work and
competition, show the company owners photos of their screw-ups
and your quality work. Tell him that he is a risk. Then offer to do
their design and electrical installation (let them do the sales,
roofing, and grunt work).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Joel Davidson</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=warren@wind-sun.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 28, 2011
3:35 AM</DIV>
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Roofers installing solar = creative,new installation methods</DIV>
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<DIV>We have seen a lot of the roofing companies nibbling around the
edges of solar installs lately. I have only seen a couple of
installs personally, and they were far from what I would call
professional or reliable. Not quite as bad as your example, but in
one case they had used Romex to run the wiring down to the inverter,
and not in conduit.</DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com
href="http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com"
rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:nicksoleilsolar@yahoo.com">Nick Soleil</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 27, 2011 8:11 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [RE-wrenches] Roofers installing solar =
creative,new installation methods</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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wrenches:<BR> Have you noticed that roofing companies
have recently been trying to sell solar? One company thought
of something that I had never considered. Listen to this neat
story.<BR> I was servicing a job today, where a roofing
company recently removed and re-installed a PV array on a 12 degree
sloped roof. The funny thing is that the roofer didn't want to
penetrate his new roof, so he and the customer decided to leave the
panels sitting on the composition roof without any attachments to
the structure. They didn't think it was necessary!
<BR> Shortly afterward, the array slid down the
roof, and a MultiContact connector came unplugged. The
customer noticed that his system was not operating, and called us to
the site. <BR>
<DIV> </DIV>Nick Soleil<BR>Project Manager<BR>Advanced
Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<BR>PO Box 657<BR>Petaluma, CA
94953<BR>Cell: 707-321-2937<BR>Office: 707-789-9537<BR>Fax:
707-769-9037
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