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And that's why we sell Morningstar as well. We don't use them in our
own residential installations, as they're not listed. But for small
unpermitted systems they work well, with occasional failures. <br>
<br>
But for retail sales (a tiny part of our business) the advantages
are real: easy to install and hook up, with little setup skill
required as with an FM60 or Solar Boost. And we sell them with a
clear "no return" policy, because the manufacturer's warranty is
quite sufficient. We tell a prospective customer that we carry this
brand because of its reputation for reliability and good warranty
support; like any electrical part from an auto parts store, once
it's installed it can't be returned, as we have no control over the
application.<br>
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<a href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com"
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NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer<br>
EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>
<b style="">Positive Energy, Inc.</b><br>
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On 1/24/2011 11:05 AM, Warren Lauzon wrote:
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<div>All controllers have failures – most commonly due to
user/installer errors. Of all the controllers we sell,
Morningstar have been by far the most trouble free and has
the best no-hassle warranty.</div>
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<div>We have probably sold/installed around 100 to 200 of the
SS-MPPT-15 controllers over the past year or so, and have
seen almost zero problems that were not caused by a bad
installation of some sort. Just on a side note, of all the
controllers of all brands we have sold over the past decade,
probably 3/4 of those returned by end users as “not working”
has nothing wrong with them.</div>
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="kent@coveoregon.com"
href="mailto:kent@coveoregon.com">Kent Osterberg</a>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 24, 2011 10:39 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] 10A Charge / load
controller</div>
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<div style="font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family:
'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: small;
font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;">The spec sheet
for the SS-MPPT says 75 volts maximum open circuit. Maximum
PV power: 200 watts for 12-volt batteries and 400-watts for
24-volt batteries. While it is supposed to be protected
from PV overload and PV high voltage, it doesn't seem
surprising that failures that have been observed are in
systems that are pushing on these limits. Fortunately,
Morningstar stands behind their product.<br>
<br>
Kent Osterberg<br>
Blue Mountain Solar, Inc.<br>
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bob ellison wrote:
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face="Calibri"><span style="font-family:
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14pt;">From memory it seems that the max voltage
listed in the manual for the Sun Saver MPPT is 35
volts but I don’t have it handy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';
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'Tahoma','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"> <a
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[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf
Of </span></b>Starlight Solar, Larry
Crutcher<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Friday, January 21, 2011 8:38 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
RE-wrenches<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [RE-wrenches] 10A Charge / load controller<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">I have had failures with the
Sunsaver MPPT. I have used them with a single
Sanyo module in small battery systems. Perhaps
they just can't handle the 50.9 Voc.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt;">Larry</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span
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class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family:
'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"> <a
title="maverick@mavericksolar.com"
href="mailto:maverick@mavericksolar.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Maverick Brown
[Maverick Solar]</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family:
'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"> <a
title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">RE-wrenches</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></font></b><font
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Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:38 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';
font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></font></b><font
size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family:
'Arial','sans-serif'; font-size: 10pt;"> Re:
[RE-wrenches] 10A Charge / load controller<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="MsoNormal"><font
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">Try SunSaver MPPT. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New
Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">15 amps,
MPPT and load control (or light) control<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New
Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Use the
MSC to connect the controller to your PC and
adjust many settings and get log data. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New
Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">We use a
lot of them and have had very few issues. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Thank you, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Maverick
Brown<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">BSEET,
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer ®<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">President
& CEO<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Maverick
Solar Enterprises, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Office:
512-919-4493<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times
New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cell:
512-460-9825<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New
Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Sent from
an iPhone. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;" class="MsoNormal"><font
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>
On Jan 20, 2011, at 5:37 PM, "Jason
Szumlanski" <<a
href="mailto:Jason@fafcosolar.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">Jason@fafcosolar.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73,
125); font-size: 11pt;">I’m looking for a
~10A charge controller for a 12V battery
with adjustable LVD that goes up to at
least 12V. Priorities in order are:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.25in;"
class="MsoListParagraph"><font size="2"
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73,
125); font-size: 11pt;">1.</span></font><font
size="1" color="#1f497d"><span style="color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 7pt;">
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d"
face="Calibri"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73,
125); font-size: 11pt;">Small in size</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.25in;"
class="MsoListParagraph"><font size="2"
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73,
125); font-size: 11pt;">2.</span></font><font
size="1" color="#1f497d"><span style="color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 7pt;">
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d"
face="Calibri"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73,
125); font-size: 11pt;">Good</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="text-indent: -0.25in;"
class="MsoListParagraph"><font size="2"
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73,
125); font-size: 11pt;">3.</span></font><font
size="1" color="#1f497d"><span style="color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 7pt;">
</span></font><font size="2" color="#1f497d"
face="Calibri"><span style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73,
125); font-size: 11pt;">Cheap</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="font-family:
'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: rgb(31, 73,
125); font-size: 11pt;">The best I can
come up with now is the Xantrex C12.
Looking for alternatives. Recommendations?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
color="#1f497d" face="Cambria"><span
style="font-family: 'Cambria','serif';
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size:
12pt;">Jason Szumlanski</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3"
color="#1f497d" face="Cambria"><span
style="font-family: 'Cambria','serif';
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size:
12pt;">Fafco Solar</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
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