<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Interesting website August, not sure if it uses a battery backup or simply supplies/returns reactive power at night from normal inductive loads. In their graph they list what items were running during the test and some of them are inductive loads, if they are capturing the reactive power and returning it back to the inductive load that may be how they are increasing their KVAh output at sunrise and sunset? Most customers are only charged for KWh not KVAh though. A 24 hour chart might help.</div>
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<div>Also, not sure if it has a 1 year or 20 year warranty, both are listed on the site.</div>
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<div>They say that the output is 120vac and it can be hooked up to a 480v 3 phase service, however, they fail to mention that you would need a customer supplied transformer in order to make the connection.</div>
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<div>It does not use capacitors which is probably a plus if you are mounting it under a module.</div>
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<div>And it would be nice to see a real world independent test of the product. Maybe Enphase has something similar in the works that it could be compared to.</div>
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<DIV id=wmQuoteWrapper>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Xslent?<BR>From: August Goers <<a href="mailto:august@luminalt.com">august@luminalt.com</a>><BR>Date: Fri, January 07, 2011 10:24 am<BR>To: RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><BR><BR>Hi All -<BR><BR>Thanks for the helpful info! We did a little more research on our end and<BR>I guess Apparent is the new brand name for the Xslent product. What<BR>baffles me is the chart where they show that they're producing power<BR>before and after sunrise and sunset:<BR><BR><a href="http://www.apparent.com/products/mgi.html">http://www.apparent.com/products/mgi.html</a><BR><BR>The system must include batteries? Someone on their marketing team is<BR>really going to town...<BR><BR>Best, August<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><BR>[<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On Behalf Of jay peltz<BR>Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:43 PM<BR>To: RE-wrenches<BR>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Xslent?<BR><BR>HI Peter,<BR><BR>I agree with you that for now on residential it makes no sense.<BR>However for commercial that might have to pay extra for PF issues, to have<BR>the inverter adjust for this makes sense.<BR>Its the reason they( inverter companies ) are doing it.<BR>I"ve heard a better more complete reason of course from Bill Brooks, who<BR>maybe can chime in.<BR><BR>sorry got away from me,<BR><BR><BR>jay<BR>peltz power<BR>On Jan 6, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Peter Parrish wrote:<BR><BR>> I can't understand how any inverter WOULDN'T deliver its power with the<BR>> voltage and current 100% IN PHASE.<BR>><BR>> When the voltage and current are not 100% in-phase that represents<BR>reactive<BR>> power. Reactive power flows positive for a quarter of the AC cycle, then<BR>> negative for a quarter of a cycle, then positive and then negative. The<BR>net<BR>> result over one AC cycle is ZERO power delivered to the load.<BR>><BR>> So reactive power is worthless.<BR>><BR>> Worse, it results in higher currents (and voltages) for the same amount<BR>of<BR>> in-phase power, putting additional stress on circuits.<BR>><BR>> - Peter<BR>><BR>><BR>> Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President<BR>> California Solar Engineering, Inc.<BR>> 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065<BR>> CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<BR>> <a href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a><BR>> Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885<BR>><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<BR><BR>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><BR><BR>Options & settings:<BR><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><BR><BR>List-Archive:<BR><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><BR><BR>List rules & etiquette:<BR><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><BR><BR>Check out participant bios:<BR><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<BR><BR>List Address: <a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><BR><BR>Options & settings:<BR><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><BR><BR>List-Archive: <a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><BR><BR>List rules & etiquette:<BR><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><BR><BR>Check out participant bios:<BR><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></span></body></html>