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<DIV>We use the “inner melt” type of heat shrink and have had few problems with
it compared to the standard heat shrink. As far as Lead plated lugs, I am not
sure I see much advantage to them. Also as far as coatings go, most Vaseline and
other standard grease type are way too temperature sensitive, and in hot weather
they just melt away – and they are also great dust/bug/dirt gatherers. 3M and
others make a spray on coating that hardens somewhat that we have found to be
much better. From the 3M website “<FONT face="Times New Roman">Scotch®
Insulating Sprays 1601 and 1602 are electrical-grade, fast-drying enamel sealers
and insulators in pressurized cans.
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</SPAN></DIV></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">These sealers protect surfaces
against weather, moisture, corrosion, oil, alkalies and acids. The sprays can
afford easy access to hard-to-reach spots. Use Insulating Spray sealers to spray
over insulation on wire and cable splices, as a general-purpose sealer, or for
touch-up insulation on motor windings and frames. Sprays are available in clear,
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">The local Home Depot carries it here, also
some electrical distributors.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=ray@solarray.com
href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">R Ray Walters</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:26 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Cable REvistied</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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Mark;
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<DIV>Where do you get the lead plated lugs? We used to special order tin plated
lugs from Del City, but they quit carrying them.
<DIV>I found that the grease or vaseline coating was the most important issue,
though. Tin plated lugs would corrode just like the unplated ones, except they
first would lose their plating.</DIV>
<DIV>Lead plated lugs might just be the ticket, except you would still have to
keep the corrosion from creeping up under the heat shrink to the copper
cable.</DIV>
<DIV>I've had cables with corrosion going up the cable strands for over 6" past
the lug. And yes we use heat shrink with the sealing adhesive inside; the
corrosion just travels right under it along the surface of the metal. I actually
found electrical tape seals better, it just doesn't look near as good, so we
still use heat shrink, and coat over the heat shrink with the vaseline (or
grease).</DIV>
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<DIV>R. Walters</DIV>
<DIV><A href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV>On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Mark Frye wrote:</DIV><BR
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class=109580316-30112010>I recently worked with a telecom specification that
required lead plated copper lugs on the battery side and I have been using the
same on my own systems for some time now.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=109580316-30112010>How important is it to use lead plated lugs on the
battery side? Is tin plated copper just as good so long as you coat well with
grease etc.?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=109580316-30112010></SPAN></FONT><BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Mark Frye</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
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face=Arial>Berkeley Solar Electric Systems</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT size=2
face=Arial>303 Redbud Way</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Nevada City, CA 95959</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
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face=Arial>(530) 401-8024</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
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href="http://www.berkeleysolar.com/"><SPAN lang=en-us><U><FONT color=#0000ff
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B><SPAN
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Glenn Burt<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Monday, November 29, 2010 6:03
PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>'RE-wrenches'<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Cable
REvistied<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: cambria, serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi
Ray,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: cambria, serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I have for my last 2
battery jobs used the Cobra X-Flex in 2/0 size with MTW
rating.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: cambria, serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>At the battery end I
have found the Thomas & Betts 54163-TB lugs, available at my local
Grainger store to be a good match both mechanically and specification wise
(also the correct hole size for M8 terminals in my Concorde AGM’s).<BR>On the
usual electrical equipment end, I use a Greaves Shoo-Pin<SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: cambria, serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">PT131FX20 as the
appropriate reducer to a THHN stranding #</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">2/0 size (available through our local Graybar store,
drop shipped to my office). Because I am using a Sunny Island, of course
nothing #2 fits… so I have two Polaris style connectors in the trough below
the SI where I switch from the Shoo-Pins to four #1 THHN to go up into the SI
batt terminals (two conductors per pole).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In fact, I am wrapping up one of these installs right
now.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Don’t know if this helps,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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