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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=062360601-09112010><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Kent,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=062360601-09112010><FONT size=2
face=Arial>It would only be off if the tanks were full. Why?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=062360601-09112010><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Gary</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kent
Osterberg<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 08, 2010 4:58 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] Grundfos<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Gary,<BR><BR>Any chance that the pumping system is off during the
winter?<BR><BR>Kent Osterberg<BR>Blue Mountain Solar<BR><BR>Gary Gordon at SYV
Solar wrote:
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=421043600-09112010><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Wrenches,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=421043600-09112010><FONT size=2
face=Arial>More details on the Grundfos failures:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=421043600-09112010><FONT size=2
face=Arial> 1st failure 11 SQF-2 w/ 204ft TDH </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=421043600-09112010></SPAN><SPAN
class=421043600-09112010><FONT size=2 face=Arial> 2nd failure 6 SQF-2 w/
220ft. TDH </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=421043600-09112010></SPAN><SPAN
class=421043600-09112010><FONT size=2 face=Arial> 3rd failure 6
SQF-2 w/ 253ft. TDH </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=421043600-09112010><FONT size=2
face=Arial>All controllers were displaying F3 failures, there was voltage at
the well head. Only one replaced so far and seems to work
fine.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=421043600-09112010><FONT size=2
face=Arial>Any ideas or similar problems?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Gary Gordon</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Santa Ynez Valley Solar</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial>P. O. Box 688</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Santa Ynez, CA
93460</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial>805 688-1213</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial><A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:Gary@SYVSolar.com">Gary@SYVSolar.com</A></FONT></DIV> </SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Mike Nelson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 06, 2010
10:07 AM<BR><B>To:</B> RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches]
Grundfos<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Doug, </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for the feedback. I have to install the monoflo, because it was
purchased 2 summers ago, but the customer didn't have the site work done to
install the pump. This summer the site work was finished and now the customer
is ready to have the system installed, so wish me luck!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>DC Power is getting out of the pumping biz, so is Wholesale solar up
north, hopefully Solar Depot will remain in it. Our only other option is to go
through the plumbing supply houses.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I hear the bugs are being worked out of the Lorentz pump line, anyone
have any experience with them?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Mike Nelson</DIV>
<DIV>MD Electric & Solar</DIV>
<DIV>Gualala, Ca.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Doug Pratt <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:dmpratt@sbcglobal.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">dmpratt@sbcglobal.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Mike, from another Mendo
native, don’t do the Monoflo. DC Power is getting out of the pumping
biz, and we’re the only Monoflo distributor in the US. Our experience
with Monoflo hasn’t been good. We’ve seen a number of pump failures
recently, support from the manufacturer is pretty thin, and troubleshooting
in the field is poorly developed and documented. Basically it’s… pump
not working? Try plugging in a new controller. Still not working? Plug
in a new pump. Dealers don’t keep expensive pumps on the shelf in case
of breakdowns, so repairs usually end up taking weeks. Not good for
dealer/customer relations!</SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">DC
Power is getting out of water pumping because we just don’t have the
technical bandwidth anymore. We’re being pressed so hard by the
rapidly-expanding grid-tie market that our tech support crew is getting
loved to death. There’s no time. I’m sorry to see it go, I found water
pumping projects challenging and interesting, but the tech cloning project
has hit some snags.</SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">From
a sales perspective, the Grundfos SQ Flex was the best of the lot. We heard
the fewest problems from them, and those problems were usually on the
surface (the CU200 control).</SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Doug
Pratt</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">DC
Power Systems </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
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Behalf Of </B>Mike Nelson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 05, 2010 5:37
PM<BR><B>To:</B> RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches]
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I have also installed several Grundfos SQ Flex
submersible well pumps, and had trouble with them, primarily with the
control systems, the low water shut off sensor has failed on several pumps,
and the CU200 control boxes have failed. The pumps themselves have held up
so far, and seem to be very efficient. I wish there were more solar direct
well pump options, I've tried the ETA pumps, the Sunpumps (which are great
for low head, low flow) and am about to try a Monoflow. Any other
thoughts?</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Mike Nelson</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>MD Electric & Solar</P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Gualala Ca.</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Gary Gordon at SYV Solar
<<A href="mailto:gary@syvsolar.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">gary@syvsolar.com</A>> wrote:</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Wrenches,</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I set up the PV arrays
for six Grundfos SQ Flex submersible well pumps on a cattle ranch. The
first three have failed (in exact order of installation) in about a year.
Anyone else experiencing similar problems? I had always heard great things
about their equipment, is it time to look elsewhere? Where?</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Gary Gordon</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Santa Ynez Valley
Solar</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">P. O. Box 688</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Santa Ynez, CA
93460</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">805 688-1213</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:Gary@SYVSolar.com">Gary@SYVSolar.com</A></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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