<html><head><base href="x-msg://742/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi All,<div><br></div><div>Yep if I can use power line carrier it'll be lots easier because once at the main house, there is wireless etc.</div><div>I'll let you know what enphase says I can get away with.</div><div><br></div><div>jay<br><div><div>On Nov 5, 2010, at 5:29 AM, Jason Szumlanski wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">In some cases it is easier to locate the Envoy closer to the array and run a long Cat5 cable to the router. Every situation is different. We have even mounted the Envoy outside in a NEMA 4X box. I agree that the Powerline Ethernet Bridge is a good tool, and sometimes wireless makes sense. The IT part of the installation can definitely be a time drain in some places, especially large homes.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Cambria, serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Jason Szumlanski<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Cambria, serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Fafco Solar<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Cambria, serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Nick Soleil<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, November 05, 2010 3:32 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [RE-wrenches] enphase AC carrier length<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Hi wrenches:<br> One thing to keep in mind is that a 15 inverter string contains 78' of #14 just on the inverters output cables. Depending on the homerun length, it can be further. Additionally, you will have the AC run back to the distribution panel, and then the additional residential wiring (#12 or #14) to the jack nearest to the router. This can easily become 200' to 300' of wiring between the last inverter and the Envoy. However, steps can be taken to minimize the issues, and I have always found a resolution to my communication issues.<br> Breaking the string into two 7-8 module parallel strings (and then paralleling them at a j-box) can reduce the distance and voltage drop from the Enphase inverter output cables.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> I have installed many systems that have had communication issues between the Envoy and the inverters. In the past, I have installed new receptacles or run CAT 5 from the Envoy to the router. That is time consuming, and there is a much easier way to deal with it. I have resolved most of my communication issues by installing the 'Ethernet Bridge' which is a 2nd power line carrier modem and its receiver. This product enables the Envoy to be located away from the router (and closer to the array.) The 'Ethernet Bridge' is a product offered by Enphase.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Nick Soleil<br>Project Manager<br>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>PO Box 657<br>Petaluma, CA 94953<br>Cell: 707-321-2937<br>Office: 707-789-9537<br>Fax: 707-769-9037<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: center; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Drake <<a href="mailto:drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">drake.chamberlin@redwoodalliance.org</a>><br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE-wrenches <<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thu, November 4, 2010 2:31:36 PM<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [RE-wrenches] enphase AC carrier length<br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><br>I was told 300 feet by an Enphase Rep. We have a system that is at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>least that far from the Envoy.<br><br><br>At 11:14 AM 11/4/2010, you wrote:<br>>HI All,<br>><br>>Is there a max length to the AC carrier signal for Enphase?<br>><br>>I thought I did hear about a length, and in checking the website<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>>could find no mention of it.<br>><br>>Anybody know?<br>><br>>thx,<br>><br>>jay<br>><br>>peltz power<br>>_______________________________________________<br>>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br>><br>>List Address:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>><br>>Options & settings:<br>><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>><br>>List-Archive:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br>><br>>List rules & etiquette:<br>><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br>><br>>Check out participant bios:<br>><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Options & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Options & settings:<br><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List-Archive:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>List rules & etiquette:<br><a href="http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm</a><br><br>Check out participant bios:<br><a href="http://www.members.re-wrenches.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.members.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>