<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">Yes, Enphase bonds the DC positive to ground in their inverters. This allows them to work with all modules, including SunPower.<br><div> </div>Nick Soleil<br>Project Manager<br>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>PO Box 657<br>Petaluma, CA 94953<br>Cell: 707-321-2937<br>Office: 707-789-9537<br>Fax: 707-769-9037<div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Brian Mehalic <brian@solarenergy.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wed,
September 15, 2010 6:19:21 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] GEC for Enphase inverters<br></font><br>
<meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off">According to the Enphase website (/support/faqs):<br><br>"The Enphase Microinverter manual states that the device is positively grounded. Don't most PV modules have negative grounds? Is this a problem for Enphase?<br>
<br>Enphase made the decision to positively ground its microinverters to minimize corrosion. Because Enphase Microinverters are positively grounded, they are compatible with both positively and negatively grounded modules."<br>
<br>Now I couldn't actually find that anywhere in any of their installation manuals...but the instructions for "Grounding the System" does say to "Route a continuous GEC through each of the Micro-inverters and AC branch circuit junction box to the NEC approved AC grounding electrode." Clearly this conductor will function as both the DC GEC and the EGC, too.<br>
<br>Inspectors in Arizona (some of them anyway) have been allowing the DC GEC to land on the ground buss in the main service for some time. I sort of find the idea of an irreversible bond a little silly (well especially where the two GECs must come together) - I've worked on a lot of systems using only ground rods, and the connection to them is often made with the most reversible of connectors (an acorn), and usually it is excessively accessible. And of course the other end of the AC GEC is landed on a bus too.<br>
<br>Brian<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 11:09 PM, R Ray Walters <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ray@solarray.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ray@solarray.com">ray@solarray.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word;">It seems to me that William's original question of where does the EGC stop, and the GEC begin, all depends on whether the Enphase inverters bond negative to ground internally.<div>Did we ever get an answer from Enphase?<br>
<div><div>If they don't, then I think by definition in article 100, we would only have an EGC (no DC GEC, since neither DC conductor is grounded). </div><div>If they do bond neg. to ground, then from the inverter all the way to the electrode should be an "unbroken" DC GEC, and stopping at the main service ground buss would constitute a prohibited reversible connection. (it seems we should at least bond irreversibly to the AC GEC after it leaves the buss, or sink another electrode for the DC GEC and the array frame as required by 690.47(D))</div>
<div><br></div><div>Please, somebody flog me with some facts and code, so we can put this dying horsey to bed.</div><div><div class="im"><br><div>
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<br></div><div><div class="im"><div>On Sep 14, 2010, at 6:31 PM, August Goers wrote:</div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="im"><div>Hi All -</div>
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<div>I would just add that having a good c-tap crimping tool on hand is just about as valuable as it gets in the solar business. I remember holding off on getting one because of the $200 or $300 price tag but once you have it you won't believe you lived without it. The possibilities are almost endless, but we use our crimpers to bond our GECs to the other existing GECs all the time. Ctaps almost always replace wire nuts when dealing with bare copper EGCs. The c-taps typically cost less than $5 a pop and always save that much on labor. Most time when we have a multiple string inverter installation is makes sense to irreversibly crimp the GECs together and run one wire back home. </div>
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<div>Greenlee, Panduit, etc make good tools and taps. Let me know if you would like part numbers... -August</div>
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</div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Bill Brooks <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:billbrooks7@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:billbrooks7@yahoo.com">billbrooks7@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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