<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Perhaps in the future, we can go with a composite frame and remove the grounding challenge altogether?</div><div>Carbon fiber would be spectacular, minus the cost.</div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> R Ray Walters <ray@solarray.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, September 13, 2010 7:14:36 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] The Demise of WEEB<br></font><br>
I didn't do the original install, and I couldn't ID the lug because of the corrosion.<div>I believe everyone is correct that this isn't the DBT rated lug, though.<div>Another reason to use the WEEB: a crew can't accidentally install the wrong (but almost identical, when new) lug. </div><div>I'm sure the non-DBT lugs got mixed together in a bin at some point. </div><div><div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Sep 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
<table align="center" style="empty-cells:show;" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align:top;"><div style="padding:5px;"><div><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#000000;font-size:10pt;"><div> That looks like a tin plated aluminum lug (aluminum corrosion) with a plated steel screw (rusted screw).......</div>
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<div align="left"><p>Here is an explanation of the differences between both ILSCO GBL 4 lugs from John Wiles Code Corner in Homepower issue 102</p></div>
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<div>"<font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman">The Ilsco GBL-4DBT is a lay-in lug </font></font></font></div><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman">
<div align="left">made of solid copper, which is then tin-plated. It has a</div>
<div align="left">stainless steel screw to hold the wire. The lug accepts a #14</div>
</font></font></font><div align="left"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman">(2 mm</font></font></font><font color="#1a1818" size="1" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="1" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="1" face="Palatino-Roman">2</font></font></font><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman">) to #4 (21 mm</font></font></font><font color="#1a1818" size="1" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="1" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="1" face="Palatino-Roman">2</font></font></font><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman">) copper conductor. It is
listed for</font></font></font></div><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman"><font color="#1a1818" size="2" face="Palatino-Roman">
<div align="left">direct burial (DB) and outdoor use and can be attached to</div>
<div align="left">aluminum structures (the tin plate). The much cheaper Ilsco</div>
<div align="left">GBL-4 lug looks identical, but is tin-plated aluminum, has</div>
<div>a plated screw, and is not listed for outdoor use."</div>
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<div>Jamie Johnson</div>
<div>NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer #031310-118</div>
<div>General Manager</div>
<div>SOLAR POWER ELECTRIC</div>
<div>EC13001765</div></font></font></font>
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<div id="wmQuoteWrapper">-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] The Demise of WEEB<br>From: "Peter Parrish" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a>><br>Date: Sun, September 12, 2010 6:50 pm<br>To: "'RE-wrenches'" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br><br>Are you sure that's a ILSCO GBL-4DBT lug? I am pretty sure the set screw is<br>not SS, which it should be to be the genuine part.<br><br>- Peter<br><br><br>Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President<br>California Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065<br>CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com" target="_blank"
href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a> <br>Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>[<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On Behalf Of R Ray<br>Walters<br>Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:10 PM<br>To: RE-wrenches<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] The Demise of WEEB<br><br>A picture is worth a thousand words, (hopefully this will upload)<br>Here's a traditional Ilsco Lug after less than 5 years near the ocean:<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home
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