<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">The colored USE-2 wiring is UV resistant (as rated) and it is the better kind (double jacketed.) I like!<br><div> </div>Nick Soleil<br>Project Manager<br>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>PO Box 657<br>Petaluma, CA 94953<br>Cell: 707-321-2937<br>Office: 707-789-9537<br>Fax: 707-769-9037<div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Dave Palumbo <dave@independentpowerllc.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, August 2, 2010 12:14:50
PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?<br></font><br>
My application for #8 and #6 is in conduit from the PV array combiner to the<br>DC disconnect/inverter. So, UV protection is not important. Better quality<br>insulation is my concern. We had a couple of spools of #8 THHN/THWN-2 test<br>below the norm with a Fluke insulation tester recently.<br><br>My local CED distributor did track down the white USE-2 for us.<br><br>Dave<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>[mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On Behalf Of Peter<br>Parrish<br>Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:52 PM<br>To: 'RE-wrenches'<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?<br><br>Then I agree that the lack of carbon black could be a problem for
USE-2<br>wire.<br> <br>Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President<br>California Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065<br>CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br><a ymailto="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com" href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a> <br>Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885<br><br> <br>________________________________________<br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>[mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On Behalf Of Allan<br>Sindelar<br>Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:20 AM<br>To: RE-wrenches<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?<br><br>The red is USE-2, RHH and RHW-2,
rubber jacket. BiccGeneral (sp?)<br>Durasheath.<br>Allan Sindelar<br><a ymailto="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com" href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com">Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</a><br>NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer<br>EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Positive Energy, Inc.<br>3201 Calle Marie<br>Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br>505 424-1112<br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com">www.positiveenergysolar.com</a><br><br>On 8/2/2010 11:36 AM, Peter Parrish wrote: <br>I think we should be careful in two respects:<br><br>(1) We have found “black with white stripe” for #10 USE-2. Since we have not<br>had a use for anything larger than #10, I don’t know if black with a white<br>stripe is available for larger gauges. It seems intuitive that “black with a<br>white stripe” should have superior sunlight resistance than “all white”.<br><br>(2) The wire with red insulation might actually be “XLP or CPE”
wire, rated<br>USE-2. The “XLP/CLP” is a polyethylene-based not a rubber-based compound.<br><br>One thing I like about the XLP/CPE is that it is slicker than cat shit (and<br>with a smaller OD for same wire gauge), much easier to pull in conduit even<br>for the short distances that we typically have between PV modules and the<br>first j-box.<br><br>- Peter<br><br>Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President<br>California Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065<br>CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br><a ymailto="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com" href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a> <br>Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885<br><br> <br>________________________________________<br>From: <a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org"
href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br>[mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>] On Behalf Of Allan<br>Sindelar<br>Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:20 AM<br>To: RE-wrenches<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] USE-2 in white?<br><br>It's been years since we ordered it, but we got black, red and white from<br>Anixter, 1-800-538-5431. Our rep Johnny X2832.<br>The white fades in our intense sun, but is still adequately gray/white after<br>15 years.<br>Allan Sindelar<br><a ymailto="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com" href="mailto:Allan@positiveenergysolar.com">Allan@positiveenergysolar.com</a><br>NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer<br>EE98J Journeyman Electrician<br>Positive Energy, Inc.<br>3201 Calle Marie<br>Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507<br>505 424-1112<br><span><a
target="_blank" href="http://www.positiveenergysolar.com">www.positiveenergysolar.com</a></span><br><br>On 8/2/2010 10:40 AM, Mick Abraham wrote: <br>The sales rep at a wire mfr recently opined that USE-2 colors other than<br>black will not have the same sunlight resistance. <br><br>I had some red in the field which faded to pink but still looked OK after a<br>few years...but that's only after a few years, and only OK. White in the<br>same installation faded to...white but I still am nervous about using colors<br>after that conversation. <br><br>The latest batch that I bought is straight black; I believe the black stuff<br>contains carbon black which is the "secret sauce" for UV resistance. <br><br>Further input from the List would be appreciated. <br><br>Jolliness,<br><br>Mick Abraham, Proprietor<br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.abrahamsolar.com">www.abrahamsolar.com</a><br><br>Voice: 970-731-4675<br><br>On Mon, Aug 2, 2010
at 10:32 AM, EcoSolar - Eric Andrews<br><<a ymailto="mailto:eric@ecosolarnow.com" href="mailto:eric@ecosolarnow.com">eric@ecosolarnow.com</a>> wrote:<br>YES. We get ours from PLATT Electric. Most electric supply houses should<br>have this wire. It is definitely nice for your DC source circuits.<br> <br>Eric R. Andrews<br>NABCEP Certified PV Installer<br> <br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>List sponsored by Home Power magazine<br><br>List Address: <a ymailto="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" href="mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a><br><br>Options & settings:<br><span><a target="_blank" href="http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org">http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org</a></span><br><br>List-Archive:<br><span><a target="_blank"
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