<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Thanks, David</div><div>Not much lightening here. LOTS of leftover & ignorant goo in these specs. Like 20 to 30 kW of VAWT's with specs just like the subject of a recent thread on this list entitled "Wind Scam"</div><div>Only the best for the US military!<br><br>Kelly,<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">from mobile</span></div></div><div><br>On Aug 2, 2010, at 9:29, David Brearley <<a href="mailto:david.brearley@solarprofessional.com">david.brearley@solarprofessional.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt">Kelly,<br>
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The company we used the most is Bonded Lightning Protection Systems:<br>
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<a href="http://www.bondedlp.com/"><a href="http://www.bondedlp.com/">http://www.bondedlp.com/</a></a><br>
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They had local offices for our projects in Austin, TX and a regional HQ. Also, they had installed many of the lightning protection systems that we came across on existing buildings, including semiconductor fabs. We’d also run into them regularly on new construction projects.<br>
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Maybe they can help you or point you to a company that serves the NW?<br>
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There must not be a lot of lightning activity in the area—judging by the absence of service providers—which makes me wonder if this language is really appropriate for this particular project. Is it really a design standard for federal projects? Or is it just goo left in the bid package specifications from a site in a lightning prone region?<br>
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Best, David<br>
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On 8/2/10 1:34 AM, "Kelly Keilwitz, Whidbey Sun & Wind" <<a href="kelly@whidbeysunwind.com"><a href="mailto:kelly@whidbeysunwind.com">kelly@whidbeysunwind.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
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</span></font><blockquote><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt">David,<br>
Sounds like a perfect solution to me. The UL website lists 14 pages of Listed Installers for lightning protection, about 70% located in the Southeast, and the closest to WA State in Utah or SoCal. Do you recall the name of any such firm you liked to work with and were reasonable with their bids? It would be nice not to have to cold call from such a large list. <br>
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</span></font><font face="Helvetica, Verdana, Arial"><span style="font-size:12pt">Kelly Keilwitz, P.E. <br>
Whidbey Sun & Wind<br>
Renewable Energy Systems<br>
987 Wanamaker Rd.<br>
Coupeville, WA 98239<br>
<a href="kelly@whidbeysunwind.com"><a href="mailto:kelly@whidbeysunwind.com">kelly@whidbeysunwind.com</a></a><br>
PH & FAX: 360.678.7131<br>
NABCEP Certified PV Installer<br>
WA Electrical Administrator<br>
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On Aug 1, 2010, at 8:24 AM, David Brearley wrote:<br>
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When I came across language like this in an RFP, my assumption was that we needed to work with a specialty lightning protection subcontractor, a firm listed by UL. I would call them up, give them a project description and request a quote, which I would build into our cost estimate for the project. Included in their scope of work is providing a “UL Listed Lightning Protection Certificate.” You can include that scope of work as a line item in our proposal. If the proposal requires that you include resumes for key team members, you might also include the lightning company’s bio as it shows you’ve done your due diligence.<br>
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On the projects that I managed in this fashion, the lightning protection company always came in after our construction was substantially complete. There may be cases where you want to coordinate the that scope of work differently and get them on site earlier. They should be able to tell you what will work best, based on the general project description and your specific equipment grounding scheme.<br>
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David Brearley, Senior Technical Editor<br>
<i>SolarPro</i> magazine <br>
NABCEP Certified PV Installer ™<br>
<a href="david.brearley@solarprofessional.com"><a href="mailto:david.brearley@solarprofessional.com">david.brearley@solarprofessional.com</a></a><br>
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On 7/31/10 3:28 PM, "Kelly Keilwitz, Whidbey Sun & Wind" <<a href="kelly@whidbeysunwind.com"><a href="mailto:kelly@whidbeysunwind.com">kelly@whidbeysunwind.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
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</span></font><blockquote><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hi All,<br>
I'm working on the design for a PV & Wind power system for a military installation. The specs call for Lightning Protection as follows:<br>
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</span></font><blockquote><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><font size="1"><span style="font-size:9pt">"</span></font></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size:9pt"><font face="Arial">Provide a complete lightning protection system with a UL Lightning Protection Inspection Certificate. <br>
</font><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial">including, but not necessarily limited to, strike termination devices, conductors, ground terminals, <br>
interconnecting conductors, surge suppression devices, and other connectors and fittings required for <br>
a complete and usable system. "<br>
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</font></span></font></blockquote><font size="2"><font face="Helvetica, Verdana, Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Anyone have an idea of what qualifies? Is there a package product that has the "UL Lightning Protection Inspection Certificate"?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
-Kelly<br>
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</font></span></font><font face="Helvetica, Verdana, Arial"><span style="font-size:12pt">Kelly Keilwitz, P.E.<br>
Whidbey Sun & Wind<br>
Renewable Energy Systems<br>
NABCEP Certified PV Installer<br>
<a href="kelly@whidbeysunwind.com"><a href="mailto:kelly@whidbeysunwind.com">kelly@whidbeysunwind.com</a></a><br>
360.678.7131<br>
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