<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Roy is this not the same except fot the ridiges that Mick Sigrillo reported on in 2009 small wind conference, the same one that I had taken data on? Mick reported at the rate of energy production it would take 1000 yrs to pay back. My data was equally bad</DIV>
<DIV>ST<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 7/24/10, Chris Daum <I><chris@OasisMontana.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Chris Daum <chris@OasisMontana.com><BR>Subject: [RE-wrenches] wind scam?<BR>To: "'RE-wrenches'" <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><BR>Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 1:39 PM<BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#800000 face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN class=yiv366034102706063818-24072010>With all the alleged information on their web site, I couldn't find <STRONG>any</STRONG> power curves. And their "contact us" form was only for folks who had purchased their turbines.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#800000 face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN class=yiv366034102706063818-24072010>Let the buyer beware!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Roy Butler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B> RE-wrenches<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RE-wrenches] wind scam?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Todd,<BR><BR>We're still waiting for verifiable 3rd party energy production data on this turbine.<BR>Until that happens, this turbine stays on my "not ready for prime time" list.<BR>As of today, Helix has not seen fit to file a notice of intent to certify with the<BR>SWCC. Keep an eye on that list and the eventual certified turbine list, both will<BR> be very helpful in the future for weeding out the scams.<BR><A href="http://www.smallwindcertification.org/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.smallwindcertification.org</A><BR><BR>"Revolutionary" may be a good description for kinetic lawn art but doesn't<BR>tell us a thing about it's ability to produce kilowatt hours to the grid.<BR><BR>What is it about human nature that makes people believe that the weirder<BR>the design, the better it must be? And that "breakthrough" technology is<BR>the best technology?<BR><BR>Have fun with this customer!<BR><BR><PRE class=yiv366034102moz-signature>Roy
Butler
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer®
NYSERDA eligible PV & wind installer
PA Sunshine Program Approved PV Installer
Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC
8902 Route 46
Arkport, NY 14807
607-324-9747
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</PRE><BR>On 7/24/2010 12:36 PM, Todd Cory wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Sorry to bother the list with this kind of BS, but I have a client who insists this is a revolutionary wind machine design that is not a yard art scam. Feedback?<BR><BR><A class=yiv366034102moz-txt-link-freetext href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9flSPAdOLk" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9flSPAdOLk</A><BR><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<BR><BR>
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