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<DIV>Antony,</DIV>
<DIV>Right on! The Eco-fasten will solve the issue - it's been pull-out
tested sans-rafter penetration. Have bought the eco-green fasteners from them,
will again. As far as dealing with them - it's a great pleasure to be able
to <EM><STRONG>talk</STRONG></EM> to someone with good product knowledge that
will take the time to answer stupid questions. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Holt E. Kelly<BR>Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products<BR>500 Jewell
Dr.<BR>Waco TX. 76712<BR>254-751-9111<BR><A
href="http://www.holteksolar.com">www.holteksolar.com</A><BR></DIV>
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<A title=tony@appliedsolarenergy.com
href="mailto:tony@appliedsolarenergy.com">Antony Tersol</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 19, 2010 11:33
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [RE-wrenches] Foam Insulation
Install</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Have you looked at EcoFasten mounting. They have a mount
that uses 8 screws per attachment, so can theoretically hold without going
into the rafters. Then could use a large flashing over that to integrate
with the shingles.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I think they're an offshoot of AlpenSnowguards in Vermont. We
started working with Alpen to source S5 clamps several years ago, and have
found them great to work with.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>We're a West coast company - there were lots of other distributors
closer, but Alpen got and kept our business. It's kind of funny - when I
call them, I feel like I'm talking with someone in one of those old hardware
stores with everything you need right there in bins, and when I call the other
guys it seems like someone in a sales office who never handles the product.
</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The EcoFasten crew is similarly helpful, and they have some well thought
out products. The name I have in my rollodex is Chris Sterns, at
877-859-3947. <BR clear=all><BR>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.ecofastensolar.com/our-products/eco-fasten">http://www.ecofastensolar.com/our-products/eco-fasten</A></DIV>
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<DIV><A href="http://www.ecofastensolar.com/our-products/eco-fasten"></A>Their
website is pretty comprehensive, and includes leak and load tests and building
code info. Other cool mounting products too.<BR>-- <BR>Antony
Tersol<BR>Solex / Applied Solar Energy<BR>831-333-1919<BR>
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<DIV>You wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">For
residential install with the spray foam insulation</SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">Underside
of deck has 12"+ of foam.....no way to accurately locate rafter</SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">there.....hammer
and ear also out of the question...........don't think any</SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">of
the stud finders will work....been told that peeling back shingles
to</SPAN><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">locate
rafter is only accurate way.......would like to avoid that if</SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">possible..........any
suggestions?</SPAN><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">Holt
E. Kelly</SPAN><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">Holtek
Fireplace & Solar Products</SPAN><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">500
Jewell Dr.</SPAN><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">Waco
TX. 76712</SPAN><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse">254-751-9111</SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: arial, sans-serif; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse"><A
style="COLOR: rgb(42,93,176)" href="http://www.holteksolar.com/"
target=_blank>www.holteksolar.com</A></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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