<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> It is important that the 'Easy Feet' or similar product is installed on a roof that meets certain criteria, as per the manufacturer. Other comparable products require ~1/2" (15/32") plywood or particle roof sheathing which is installed with a minimum specified nail pattern. The calculations would be affected by the spacing between the roof and the modules, and the amount of air that can get under the modules. If the panels are flush to the roof, then there is little or no uplift.<br><div> </div>Nick Soleil<br>Project Manager<br>Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>PO Box 657<br>Petaluma, CA 94953<br>Cell: 707-321-2937<br>Office: 707-789-9537<br>Fax: 707-769-9037<div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:
12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> benn kilburn <benn@daystarsolar.ca><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, July 19, 2010 9:34:32 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [RE-wrenches] attaching to roof decking - Foam Insulation Install<br></font><br>
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after a few requests, i have not been getting any feedback from Direct Power regarding pull out specs for their 'easy feet', which i need for my engineer to be able to give me the go-ahead to use them.<div>does anyone care to comment on the fact that this mounting method only attaches to the roof decking and not the rafters? </div><div><br></div><div>i have always been under the impression that if you only attach your racking to the roof decking, it (the decking) could 'rip right off the roof' in that worst case scenario wind storm! but by anchoring to the trusses, the whole roof structure would/should withstand the wind load. </div><div>or maybe i was just under the wrong impression and the spiel was that the decking would not hold the screws and the screws would pull out!</div><div>so am i to understand that by using several (of the right size) screws at each anchor point, the decking (if adequate) will be able to support an array (even if
tilted up to 60 deg)???</div><div><br></div><div>cheers,</div><div>benn<br><br><span class="ecxecxecxEC_Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">DayStar Renewable Energy Inc. </span><div><div>benn@daystarsolar.ca</div><div>780-906-7807 </div><div>HAVE A SUNNY DAY
</div><div><br></div></div><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: frenergy@psln.com<br>To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<br>Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:32:23 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Foam Insulation Install<br><br>
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<div><font face="Lucida Sans">I have also had a great experience using "Easy
Feet" from Direct Power. You use four of their screws per foot and Jeff
Randall there can give you pull out specs in roof decking, as I recall they
match or exceed that of the Lag/rafter combo.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Lucida Sans">Bill</font></div>
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<div>Feather River Solar Electric<br>4291 Nelson St.<br>Taylorsville, CA
95983<br>530-284-7849/6544 fax</div>
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<div style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228); font: 10pt arial;"><b>From:</b>
<a rel="nofollow" title="holtek@sbcglobal.net" ymailto="mailto:holtek@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:holtek@sbcglobal.net">holtek@sbcglobal.net</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">RE-wrenches</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 19, 2010 12:24
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<div>Antony,</div>
<div>Right on! The Eco-fasten will solve the issue - it's been pull-out
tested sans-rafter penetration. Have bought the eco-green fasteners from them,
will again. As far as dealing with them - it's a great pleasure to be
able to <em><strong>talk</strong></em> to someone with good product knowledge
that will take the time to answer stupid questions. </div>
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<div>Holt E. Kelly<br>Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products<br>500 Jewell
Dr.<br>Waco TX. 76712<br>254-751-9111<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.holteksolar.com">www.holteksolar.com</a><br></div>
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<a rel="nofollow" title="tony@appliedsolarenergy.com" ymailto="mailto:tony@appliedsolarenergy.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tony@appliedsolarenergy.com">Antony Tersol</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 19, 2010 11:33
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Foam Insulation
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<div><br></div>Have you looked at EcoFasten mounting. They have a
mount that uses 8 screws per attachment, so can theoretically hold without
going into the rafters. Then could use a large flashing over that to
integrate with the shingles.
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<div>I think they're an offshoot of AlpenSnowguards in Vermont. We
started working with Alpen to source S5 clamps several years ago, and have
found them great to work with.
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<div>We're a West coast company - there were lots of other distributors
closer, but Alpen got and kept our business. It's kind of funny - when
I call them, I feel like I'm talking with someone in one of those old
hardware stores with everything you need right there in bins, and when I
call the other guys it seems like someone in a sales office who never
handles the product. </div>
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<div>The EcoFasten crew is similarly helpful, and they have some well
thought out products. The name I have in my rollodex is Chris Sterns,
at 877-859-3947. <br clear="all"><br>
<div><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.ecofastensolar.com/our-products/eco-fasten">http://www.ecofastensolar.com/our-products/eco-fasten</a></span></div>
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<div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.ecofastensolar.com/our-products/eco-fasten"></a>Their
website is pretty comprehensive, and includes leak and load tests and
building code info. Other cool mounting products too.<br>-- <br>Antony
Tersol<br>Solex / Applied Solar Energy<br>831-333-1919<br>
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<div>You wrote:</div>
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<div><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">For
residential install with the spray foam insulation</span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">Underside
of deck has 12"+ of foam.....no way to accurately locate rafter</span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">there.....hammer
and ear also out of the question...........don't think any</span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">of
the stud finders will work....been told that peeling back shingles
to</span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">locate
rafter is only accurate way.......would like to avoid that if</span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">possible..........any
suggestions?</span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">Holt
E. Kelly</span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">Holtek
Fireplace & Solar Products</span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">500
Jewell Dr.</span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">Waco
TX. 76712</span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;">254-751-9111</span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><br></span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; font-family: arial,sans-serif; border-collapse: collapse;"><a rel="nofollow" style="color: rgb(42, 93, 176);" target="_blank" href="http://www.holteksolar.com/">www.holteksolar.com</a></span></div></div></div></div>
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