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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>By the way, it was a typo, it is
an 8 battery system @48Vdc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We just put in an order for a
power vent, the home owner is going to install this herself, as she is handy
enough and has done PVC plumbing work before. I will let the list know if this
solves the issue or not. Also I plan to have her install new CO detectors
downstairs just in case the hydrogen caused any damage to the sensors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the input.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img width=178 height=189
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ronald
Paredes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> RE-wrenches<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Bank Off-gassing CO?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hello Daniel,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Unfortunately, I’ve had to
deal with this issue in the past and after countless hours of effort
(end-users, fire departments, and my own), the conclusion and/or corrective
action has always been to replace the CO detector. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Carbon
monoxide or other carbon oxides are not expected byproducts from a lead-acid
battery. Lead-acid batteries essentially have three active materials, which
broadly speaking are lead dioxide, spongy lead, and sulfuric acid. Since no
carbon exists in the active components, carbon monoxide cannot be a byproduct
of lead-acid batteries. Lead-acid batteries do produce small amounts of oxygen
and hydrogen while they are being charged. Particularly, as the battery
approaches the end of charge. Most battery designs will start producing oxygen
when the battery reaches a state of charge of about 70% SOC and will produce
hydrogen at about 90% SOC. Both gases will continue to be liberated until the
charge is complete. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-align:justify'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hydrogen has been known to be an
interference gas for some CO detectors. The sensing technology of CO detector
will largely determine how much hydrogen cross-sensitivity it will have, but
there is also a hydrogen concentration threshold that will trigger some CO
detectors. In most cases, the problem will go away if the end-user improves the
ventilation of the room. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Sounds like you are taking all
the appropriate steps to resolve the problem… Let me know how it goes. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Ronald Paredes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Technical
Product Manager – Renewable Energy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>Trojan Battery
Company<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'>12380 Clark
Street <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Santa Fe
Springs, CA 90670<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Tel:
(562)236-3000 Ext. 3066<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Fax:
(562)236-3279<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:rparedes@trojanbattery.com"><span
style='font-size:8.0pt'>rparedes@trojanbattery.com</span></a><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.trojanbattery.com/"><span
style='font-size:8.0pt'>www.trojanbattery.com</span></a><span style='font-size:
8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:maroon'>Trojan Battery
Company - Clean Energy for Life™</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel
Young<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [RE-wrenches] Battery Bank Off-gassing CO?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I was emailed recently by someone in my area saying that she
thinks here battery bank is going bad and poisoning her home…. My firm
did not install her off grid system. Her original installer will not respond.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>She has an 6yr old battery bank w/ 6 Trojan L16H’s
(48V). The system has 1.2kw of shell solar modules with an MX60 CC and FX
Inverter. She noticed feeling ill when in the basement where the system
electronics were installed, so she got out a combustion gas analyzer, (she is a
home energy auditor), and recorded over 500 ppm CO in the battery bank storage
closet, not the battery box, but the closet that stores the outback system.
That is over double the concentration that the US Consumer Product Safety
Commission considers deathly toxic. She reports this has been going on for the
last 1-2 months. There is one battery box in this closet, with a 3” PVC
vent pipe going up to the roof. There is no power vent.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Has anyone heard of a flooded lead acid battery bank
emitting CO? I did not think that a lead/sulfur based battery was capable of
this. Is it possible that her combustion gas analyzer is mis-interpreting some
other gas as CO?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We already plan to install a power vent at minimum, and to
closely inspect her ventilation system and improve it as needed. Just curious
if anyone else has seen this happen before.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=178 height=189 id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:image001.jpg@01CB177C.BF2BE6A0" alt=Danny><o:p></o:p></p>
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