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<font size="+1"><font face="Arial"><small>When I was on the roof taking
measurements for the proposed array... I found the oatey flashing on a
1 1/2 sewer vent. The metal was still there, but only a few pieces of
the rubber were left. It had been leaking down along the pipe into the
wall for years. This is what got me to thinking those rubber flashings
may not be as great as I had assumed they were.<br>
<br>
Since we were putting up an array, it was a no brainer to have the
aging roof replaced first, along with the flashings. The comp was 20
years old.<br>
<br>
Todd</small><br>
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Peter Parrish wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Let’s see.
“25 years out in the sun”. Did
the roof last the 25 years? If it didn’t, why weren’t the <span
class="SpellE">Oatey</span>
flashings replaced as part of the re-roof at $4 a pop?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">But I
digress. All the flashings on a
normal, well-designed are UNDER THE PV ARRAY. No UV, no rain, but some
extra
heat, no doubt. My wag is that <span class="SpellE">Oatey</span>
flashings as
part of a PV array will outlast most of the roofs they are designed to
protect.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Nick <span
class="SpellE">Soleil</span><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June
24, 2010 3:33
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
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style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Aloha Wrenches:<br>
Do you add a rubber boot to the top of the <span class="SpellE">Oatey</span>
Flashings. Do you think the <span class="SpellE">Oatey</span>
Solar Flashings, which utilize a rubber boot, will stand up to
weathering below
an array. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Nick <span class="SpellE">Soleil</span><br>
Project Manager<br>
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">PO Box</st1:Street> 657</st1:address><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Petaluma</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">CA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">94953</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
Cell: 707-321-2937<br>
Office: 707-789-9537<br>
Fax: 707-769-9037<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, June 24,
2010 2:34:29
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>] Flashed Footing Requirements<br>
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I have seen 25 year old <span class="SpellE">oaty</span> flashings rot
out in the
sun too. I think caulked L-feet is a more long lasting solution to roof
mounts.<br>
<br>
Todd<br>
<br>
</span></font><br>
Blair May wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Whats</span></font></span><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;"> wrong with
doing it right the first time? Flashing is the only way
to insure that you don't have to use that liability insurance &
that the
install is water tight. I would speak to the inspector & try to
work
out proper flashings installed in the future & see if he will waive
the
removal & <span class="SpellE">replacment</span> of the <span
class="SpellE">exisiting</span>
installs.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Welcome to
my world where we loose jobs
regularly to other installers that do not use proper flashing methods.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Yeah it does
increase the cost, but the
install should have a life cycle of 25 years.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Nick <span
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
June 23, 2010
8:10 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:PersonName>] Flashed Footing Requirements</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Who can help:<br>
One of our local jurisdictions, City of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Petaluma</st1:place></st1:City>, is beginning to require
flashed footings
under all solar arrays. I think that some flashed footings are better
than the Unirac L feet or <span class="SpellE">Prosolar's</span> <span
class="SpellE">TileTrac</span> foot, but the flashed footings cost a
lot more $,
and some flashed footing products seem flawed (less watertight) They
are
asking me to uninstall two commissioned systems from last week, and
replace the
footings with flashed Fast Jacks, even though the documents detailed
the
penetration method. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;"> I am looking for some
good info that
supports flexible installation methods, including caulked footings.
Our
industry has come a long way from the early days of racking on slotted
angle
iron with steel L-brackets for feet, but those experiences tend to give
me
confidence in continuing to use caulked footings. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Nick <span class="SpellE">Soleil</span><br>
Project Manager<br>
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">PO Box</st1:Street> 657</st1:address><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Petaluma</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">CA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">94953</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
Cell: 707-321-2937<br>
Office: 707-789-9537<br>
Fax: 707-769-9037 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<h2><span style="font-size: 9pt;">Todd Cory<o:p></o:p></span></h2>
<h2><span style="font-size: 9pt;">KE6SXS<o:p></o:p></span></h2>
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<h2><span style="font-size: 9pt;">Mt. Shasta Energy
Services<o:p></o:p></span></h2>
<h1><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 116, 0);">License
C-10<span style=""> </span>#811428<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
<h1><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 116, 0);">P.O.
Box 689<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
<h1><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 116, 0);">Mt.
Shasta, CA. 96067<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color: rgb(0, 116, 0);">(530)
926-1079<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<pre><span
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Thomas Edison, in conversation with Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone,
March 1931</span><b><span
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