<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I agree Peter, the seals are not exposed like a normal flashing, so that will help. But the Oateys will still see some reflected UV radiation. I've seen other parts "protected by the array", totally deteriorate in 5 years (UV resistant tie wraps anyone?). In Hawaii, roofing supply houses only sell replacement Oatey seals, but not the flashings anymore. The deterioration could be due to other factors like humidity, not just UV.<div>Also consider the aesthetics of installations with Oatey flashings with the panels flying 6" to 8" off the roof. </div><div>Sure the cooling is better, but it's not selling many systems down the block. It's a clunky looking  install.</div><div><div>The Eco flashing stuff that Dave Palumbo pointed out looks good. </div><div>As Nick mentioned, I too found the Quick mount flashing to be weak at the rivet, although as long as the lag is tightened, I don't think it would leak.</div><div><br></div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Jun 24, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Peter Parrish wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName">
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<div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Let’s see. “25 years out in the sun”. Did
the roof last the 25 years? If it didn’t, why weren’t the <span class="SpellE">Oatey</span>
flashings replaced as part of the re-roof at $4 a pop?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">But I digress. All the flashings on a
normal, well-designed are UNDER THE PV ARRAY. No UV, no rain, but some extra
heat, no doubt. My wag is that <span class="SpellE">Oatey</span> flashings as
part of a PV array will outlast most of the roofs they are designed to protect.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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President<br>
<st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:state>
Solar Engineering, Inc.<br>
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:street w:st="on">820 Cynthia Ave.</st1:street>, <st1:city w:st="on">Los Angeles</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">CA</st1:state> <st1:postalcode w:st="on">90065</st1:postalcode></st1:address><br>
CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26<br>
<a href="mailto:peter.parrish@calsolareng.com">peter.parrish@calsolareng.com</a><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span><br>
Ph 323-258-8883, <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mobile</st1:place></st1:city>
323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885 </span></font><font size="1" color="navy"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">                                                                                   </span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">               </span></span></font><font color="navy"><span style="mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-no-proof:
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</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> <st1:personname w:st="on"><a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></st1:personname> [mailto:<st1:personname w:st="on"><a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a></st1:personname>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Nick <span class="SpellE">Soleil</span><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:33
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:personname w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:personname>] Flashed Footing Requirements</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Aloha Wrenches:<br>
    Do you add a rubber boot to the top of the <span class="SpellE">Oatey</span> Flashings.  Do you think the <span class="SpellE">Oatey</span>
Solar Flashings, which utilize a rubber boot, will stand up to weathering below
an array.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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font-family:Arial"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Nick <span class="SpellE">Soleil</span><br>
Project Manager<br>
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:street w:st="on">PO Box</st1:street> 657</st1:address><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Petaluma</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">CA</st1:state>
 <st1:postalcode w:st="on">94953</st1:postalcode></st1:place><br>
Cell: 707-321-2937<br>
Office: 707-789-9537<br>
Fax: 707-769-9037<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Todd Cory
<<a href="mailto:toddcory@finestplanet.com">toddcory@finestplanet.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:personname>
<<a href="mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thu, June 24, 2010 2:34:29
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:personname w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:personname>] Flashed Footing Requirements<br>
</span></font><br>
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I have seen 25 year old <span class="SpellE">oaty</span> flashings rot out in the
sun too. I think caulked L-feet is a more long lasting solution to roof mounts.<br>
<br>
Todd<br>
<br>
</span></font><br>
Blair May wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>

<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="SpellE"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Whats</span></font></span><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue"> wrong with doing it right the first time? Flashing is the only way
to insure that you don't have to use that liability insurance & that the
install is water tight. I would speak to the inspector & try to work
out proper flashings installed in the future & see if he will waive the
removal & <span class="SpellE">replacment</span> of the <span class="SpellE">exisiting</span>
installs.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Welcome to my world where we loose jobs
regularly to other installers that do not use proper flashing methods.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue">Yeah it does increase the cost, but the
install should have a life cycle of 25 years.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> <a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org">mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@lists.re-wrenches.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Nick <span class="SpellE">Soleil</span><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 23, 2010
8:10 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:personname w:st="on">RE-wrenches</st1:personname>] Flashed Footing Requirements</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Who can help:<br>
    One of our local jurisdictions, City of <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Petaluma</st1:place></st1:city>, is beginning to require flashed footings
under all solar arrays.  I think that some flashed footings are better
than the Unirac L feet or <span class="SpellE">Prosolar's</span> <span class="SpellE">TileTrac</span> foot, but the flashed footings cost a lot more $,
and some flashed footing products seem flawed (less watertight)  They are
asking me to uninstall two commissioned systems from last week, and replace the
footings with flashed Fast Jacks, even though the documents detailed the
penetration method.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial">    I am looking for some good info that
supports flexible installation methods, including caulked footings.  Our
industry has come a long way from the early days of racking on slotted angle
iron with steel L-brackets for feet, but those experiences tend to give me
confidence in continuing to use caulked footings.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Nick <span class="SpellE">Soleil</span><br>
Project Manager<br>
Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC<br>
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:street w:st="on">PO Box</st1:street> 657</st1:address><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Petaluma</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">CA</st1:state>
 <st1:postalcode w:st="on">94953</st1:postalcode></st1:place><br>
Cell: 707-321-2937<br>
Office: 707-789-9537<br>
Fax: 707-769-9037 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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</span></font><font size="2" color="blue" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue"> <span class="SpellE">yy</span> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<h2><b><font size="1" color="#007400" face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">Todd Cory</span></font><o:p></o:p></b></h2>

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<h1><st1:address w:st="on"><st1:street w:st="on"><b><font size="1" color="#007400" face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#007400">P.O. Box</span></font></b></st1:street><font size="1" color="#007400"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#007400"> 689</span></font></st1:address><o:p></o:p></h1>

<h1><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placetype w:st="on"><b><font size="1" color="#007400" face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#007400">Mt.</span></font></b></st1:placetype><font size="1" color="#007400"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#007400"> <st1:placename w:st="on">Shasta</st1:placename></span></font></st1:place><font size="1" color="#007400"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#007400">, CA. 96067</span></font><o:p></o:p></h1><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="1" color="#007400" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#007400;font-weight:bold">(530) 926-1079</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="1" color="#007400" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#007400;font-weight:bold"> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>

<pre><font size="1" color="#993300" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:
8.0pt;color:#993300">“I'd put my money on solar energy...I hope we don't have to wait till oil and coal run out before we tackle that." </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="1" color="#993300" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;color:#993300">∞ Thomas Edison, in conversation with
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